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Charlton Pence Priced Variants (24th Nov 18 at 10:37pm UTC)
Hello {Smile}

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/430349-doctor-tom-brent-and-his-flying-nurses/?tab=comments#comment-10149638
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (25th Nov 18 at 12:17am UTC)
Excellent link!
It'll take some time to wrap my brain around all of that info.

Thanks!

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (25th Nov 18 at 12:13pm UTC)
You're welcome. Nice to see another site that finds Charlton pence variants interesting {Smile}

Any questions, let me know...
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (25th Nov 18 at 4:08pm UTC)
No real questions. I've just got to incorporate it into the list I have.
I like the pence variants, but I'm not actually collecting Charlton Comics.
I miss the presence of non-superhero comics being available.
Charlton is a company that I appreciate for sentimental reasons.

Much of my list is compiled from very poor quality scans online.
My guess is that the pence comics are hand stamped which is why the price location varies.
My image for the "no price" issue of Atomic Mouse came from a low resolution image.
Your scan is much better and shows that a sticker was applied.
Again though, my theory is that all or most are originally printed without the pence price.

This one is an oddity to me. It appears to be gold ink stamped at the bottom as possibly a department store give-away comic.
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (26th Nov 18 at 2:20pm UTC)
Could it be these guys:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin%27s_(New_York)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (26th Nov 18 at 10:39pm UTC)
I believe so. The link doesn't work for me because of the configuration and the quirks with the message board, but I used the words in the link to find the page. I searched on it a few years ago and found the same info. As part of my checklist, I've been trying to collect all the scans that to complete the Blue Bird shoe store give-away comics.

http://charltoncomics.herobo.com/Charlton_Blue_Bird_Checklist.html
I've only completed the set for one store brand and one title. It involved working with some very poor quality scans.
http://charltoncomics.herobo.com/Blue_Bird_Comics/Masked_Raider/Blue_Bird_Schiffs_Masked_Raider.html

A few years ago I fueled a collector frenzy for those trying to collect the obscure Charlton Digests. This is a list of The Charlton Digests as well as other publishers who printed some of the same content. They were evidently sold through schools. I assume it was some kind of catalog or book fair program. It may or may not have involved fund raising.
http://charltoncomics.herobo.com/Xerox_Comic_Digests.html

One misconception is that people believe Modern Comics was an imprint of Charlton. Evidence does not support that. Modern Publications was a separate publisher that reprinted or rebound comics from various publishers including Marvel Comics. They also published Children's books. The links don't work, but here is a list of their stuff.
http://charltoncomics.herobo.com/Modern_index.html

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (3rd Dec 18 at 6:20am UTC)
At some point, L. Miller appears to have started publishing Charlton content...
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And of course those Australian versions...

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (6th Dec 18 at 5:28pm UTC)
Yes, Miller were principally in the reprint game. So few people are aware they distributed first printing US originals too. It's why I'm glad to see a site like this {Smile}
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (6th Dec 18 at 8:40pm UTC)
Most people think information like this magically appears online and don't realize the hours of effort someone spent collecting it. It's really quite amazing that if you collect information like this into one bucket, it can actually create a collecting community where there was none before. A large number of people aren't going to collect Australian Charlton reprints because they don't know what exists. If a checklist is posted online, more people know what to look for. They start searching and buying. I started collecting scans on Charlton adult humor titles and prices increased by about 5 times what they had been.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (9th Dec 18 at 10:14pm UTC)
 
Most people think information like this magically appears online and don't realize the hours of effort someone spent collecting it. It's really quite amazing that if you collect information like this into one bucket, it can actually create a collecting community where there was none before. A large number of people aren't going to collect Australian Charlton reprints because they don't know what exists. If a checklist is posted online, more people know what to look for. They start searching and buying. I started collecting scans on Charlton adult humor titles and prices increased by about 5 times what they had been.

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Indeed. I've spent thousands of hours compiling my stuff so I know how you feel. Fortunately, I enjoy it and once in a while a kindred spirit shows up, just as you're on the cusp of giving up sharing, with a kind word to keep you going. I'm still waiting for the Charlton Pence price explosion though. That can hold off until I've got them all {Grin}

I'm glad your site exists. The fact that someone else cares about Charlton pence copies is quite reassuring. It proves there's at least one other nutter in the world {Wink}
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (10th Dec 18 at 12:44am UTC)
Compiling a list of Charlton comics has been a huge undertaking. I probably won't finish in my lifetime, but I keep plugging away. Finding that one comic that no one knew existed is always fun. I get to stay connected to the history of the hobby without spending a lot of money. I am collecting any Charlton adult humor comics I find locally. The free hosts waste a lot of my time. My Brides in Love page was looking good, but the image host changed all of the image links after I created it. Now, none are working. There's nothing on their site that says you can't use the images on a web page.

I started out creating checklists for dead superhero universes. I moved on to EC comics and stopped chronologically when Mad Magazine began. I expanded that to list all of the domestic and foreign reprints. Except for some limited leatherbound hardcovers, I feel as though I'm up to date about what I know exists. Whenever I move onto a new company, I always discover some unusual oddities that few collectors know about. There lies my temptation to buy something.

The common stuff doesn't interest me as much as the obscure or less known items. Once a full gallery of pence comics exists online, I am sure the prices will increase. Same with the Canadian price variants.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (10th Dec 18 at 10:19am UTC)
 
Compiling a list of Charlton comics has been a huge undertaking. I probably won't finish in my lifetime, but I keep plugging away. Finding that one comic that no one knew existed is always fun. I get to stay connected to the history of the hobby without spending a lot of money. I am collecting any Charlton adult humor comics I find locally. The free hosts waste a lot of my time. My Brides in Love page was looking good, but the image host changed all of the image links after I created it. Now, none are working. There's nothing on their site that says you can't use the images on a web page.

I started out creating checklists for dead superhero universes. I moved on to EC comics and stopped chronologically when Mad Magazine began. I expanded that to list all of the domestic and foreign reprints. Except for some limited leatherbound hardcovers, I feel as though I'm up to date about what I know exists. Whenever I move onto a new company, I always discover some unusual oddities that few collectors know about. There lies my temptation to buy something.

The common stuff doesn't interest me as much as the obscure or less known items. Once a full gallery of pence comics exists online, I am sure the prices will increase. Same with the Canadian price variants.

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That's why I do it - it keeps you in the hobby, is relatively inexpensive and it appeals to my variant instincts. Like you, I find the regular stuff less interesting and I love finding new things. I know you have your own interests but if you ever have time, check out the 'about me' tab on my CGC profile page. It shows links to quite a few threads which champion the little known variations of our four coloured friends. Good talking to you Defiant1 {Cool}
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (10th Dec 18 at 8:18pm UTC)
I did a glance. I need to check back at some time in the future.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (15th Jan 19 at 1:59am UTC)
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Do you have Gorgo #15? I didn't see a scan in your CGC thread, but here is a copy...

http://www.orbitalcomics.com/product/gorgo-issue-15-charlton-comics-1963-fn-a-ditko/

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (16th Jan 19 at 8:27pm UTC)
 
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Do you have Gorgo #15? I didn't see a scan in your CGC thread, but here is a copy...

http://www.orbitalcomics.com/product/gorgo-issue-15-charlton-comics-1963-fn-a-ditko/

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Hello Def, yes thanks I do. I have 1-15 so far. Number 16 should exist, but he's an elusive one if he does. I forget what I have and haven't posted on the CGC boards now. I'll have to revisit at some point....
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (16th Jan 19 at 8:32pm UTC)
I'm going to be offline for a while now Defiant1. I have an eye op to sort which the NHS has been threatening to perform for a while now. So if you post, and I don't reply, I'm not ignoring you. I just can't see! {Cool}

Will be back at some point and will sort out the posting of all the other pence Charltons I have, but have yet to post, so you can snaffle a picture for the checklist. Have fun {Smile}
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (16th Jan 19 at 10:47pm UTC)
That's fine. Most of my members just stop in to see if I'm still alive. Smiley Image Smiley Smiley Smiley

I was hoping I had pointed you to a comic that would fill a hole in your collection. I sorted through every comic book store's web site that was listed in Google for England, Scotland & Ireland to find that one pence cover. It was one I need though, so it was a nice find.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (18th Mar 19 at 2:17am UTC)
I just posted a thread on the Billy the Kid pence variants. I was looking at the months on the cover to see if there was some pattern. I had a theory that "maybe" only the summer months had pence variants. Kids are out of school and comics theoretically sell better in the summer months. My theory was wrong. There is no pattern to the release dates from what I can tell.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (18th Mar 19 at 10:38pm UTC)
 
I just posted a thread on the Billy the Kid pence variants. I was looking at the months on the cover to see if there was some pattern. I had a theory that "maybe" only the summer months had pence variants. Kids are out of school and comics theoretically sell better in the summer months. My theory was wrong. There is no pattern to the release dates from what I can tell.

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My research shows that all Charltons should exist between Jan 1961 and December 1963 inclusive. So BTK should have 18 issues (26-43). I've not identified any of the date gaps that exist for other publishers (Marvel, DC etc)

If I'm right, there will be 833 pence Charltons. I have proof of 448 so far, and own 385. It's a fun hunt {Cool}
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (19th Mar 19 at 2:41am UTC)
I prefer rare or scarce over common any day of the year.
I've stared at the same silver age keys 10,000 times. There are some I want, but I'm really tired of seeing the same artwork over and over. I've seen them ad nauseum. Mosrt of the stuff I collect are not seen as often.

Charlton adult humor titles.
Pre-hero Marvel monster comics. My main focus is Tales to Astonish.
Treasury/Oversized comics.
Distributor limited Trade Paperbacks (Diamond or Capital City rebound their excess comic stock and made TPB's that the publisher never sold)
Obscure indy variants.
I am interested in some of the short lived Charlton series from the 50's (Nature Boy, Blue Beetle)
I would buy any Canadian price variant on Charlton if I saw them.
I want a set of the Charlton digest sized comics. I've never seen a good scan of Flintstones Book of Laughs.
I definitely understand why these are interesting to you. It's also like putting together a puzzle.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (20th Mar 19 at 6:07pm UTC)
 
I prefer rare or scarce over common any day of the year.
I've stared at the same silver age keys 10,000 times. There are some I want, but I'm really tired of seeing the same artwork over and over. I've seen them ad nauseum. Mosrt of the stuff I collect are not seen as often.

Charlton adult humor titles.
Pre-hero Marvel monster comics. My main focus is Tales to Astonish.
Treasury/Oversized comics.
Distributor limited Trade Paperbacks (Diamond or Capital City rebound their excess comic stock and made TPB's that the publisher never sold)
Obscure indy variants.
I am interested in some of the short lived Charlton series from the 50's (Nature Boy, Blue Beetle)
I would buy any Canadian price variant on Charlton if I saw them.
I want a set of the Charlton digest sized comics. I've never seen a good scan of Flintstones Book of Laughs.
I definitely understand why these are interesting to you. It's also like putting together a puzzle.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd Mar 19 at 2:55pm UTC)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd Mar 19 at 2:59pm UTC)
Upgraded Teen Confessions #11 (UK version)
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The old image was fine, but I changed my naming structure after originally posting it, so I processed it by mistake and it looked better.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd Mar 19 at 3:03pm UTC)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd Mar 19 at 10:27pm UTC)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd Mar 19 at 10:28pm UTC)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd Mar 19 at 10:29pm UTC)
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Charlton Pence Discussion (19th May 19 at 8:41pm UTC)
 
There will always be stupid people on boards, as there are in life. It is hard to ignore them, yes, but ultimately worthwhile I find. I'll get on with anyone me, as long as they don't have an angle. I'm not keen on people with angles. Just be normal, enjoy comics, have some fun. My days of trying to help / police fruitcakes are over.

Back to comics, I finally found a Konga #2 pence copy Def:

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/430349-doctor-tom-brent-and-his-flying-nurses/?do=findComment&comment=10700658

We only need #6 now for the full pence set {Smile}


For me, it hasn't been worthwhile. I'm usually drawn towards people who have something going on and are making things happen. You are at the forefront of uncovering knowledge that was once overlooked entirely. It's not a coincidence that we are discussing the same topic. I ignored what hundreds of people wanted to talk about and chose to investigate some of the same things that inspired you. Ignoring the masses usually leads me to the edge of where things are happening. Quite a few people who are making things happen know of me even though I don't intentionally try to seek credit.

Does the pence version of Konga #11 definitely exist?
I'm currently missing pence scans of 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 11, 13 & 15.

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Re: Charlton 15¢ Price Variants (19th May 19 at 9:09pm UTC)
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For me, it hasn't been worthwhile. I'm usually drawn towards people who have something going on and are making things happen. You are at the forefront of uncovering knowledge that was once overlooked entirely. It's not a coincidence that we are discussing the same topic. I ignored what hundreds of people wanted to talk about and chose to investigate some of the same things that inspired you. Ignoring the masses usually leads me to the edge of where things are happening. Quite a few people who are making things happen know of me even though I don't intentionally try to seek credit.

Does the pence version of Konga #11 definitely exist?
I'm currently missing pence scans of 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 11, 13 & 15.

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Ha! You're the first person to say I'm 'making things happen' Def. Well, in a positive way anyway!

Cheers {Smile}

I added the missing pence Konga's to the earlier post:

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/430349-doctor-tom-brent-and-his-flying-nurses/?do=findComment&comment=10700658

I have every pence copy now apart from 6 and 10. It'll be a good set to complete, as I like Konga.
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Re: Charlton 15¢ Price Variants (19th May 19 at 10:22pm UTC)
How can anyone not like Konga? Giant gorillas are a very important part of 50's & 60's comics. The world would not be the same without them.

Currently, Facebook groups are linking to my EC checklists, my DEFIANT checklist, my Atlas/Seaboard Checklist, and my New Universe checklist. Grant Geissman (celebrity Jazz guitarist) who wrote several definitive books on EC comics complimented my gallery of Superior Comic (Canadian) EC reprints. I saw activity at my Atlas/Seaboard checklist months before the recent announcement that the characters may be in development for movies. Even though the free servers hosting my checklists are mostly duds, my stuff is getting exposure with the people who care the most. On the down side, when collectors actually get a reference on what exists, they start seeking out such comics and they start increasing in value. While awareness is good for bringing obscure comics out of warehoused backstock boxes, it ultimately makes them more expensive to buy.

The Charlton adult humor comics I buy went from selling at $2-$5 a piece in any grade to $15-$30 a piece in almost any grade. All it takes is a retailer knowing that collectors are looking for the stuff.

I bought two hard to find Broadway Comics publications for a combined total of $150. Chuck Rozanski sold one of them for $1200 after I listed it on my checklist.

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Re: Charlton 15¢ Price Variants (19th May 19 at 10:38pm UTC)
I downloaded the Konga scans. Thanks!

It'll be hard to use the scan for #2, but I can creatively cheat and possibly make use of it. I should only be missing the scan for #6 after I get these processed.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (20th May 19 at 3:28am UTC)
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More Konga to process of course... Thanks to GM & I... (which sounds like Gemini).

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (23rd May 19 at 1:21am UTC)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (26th May 19 at 9:48pm UTC)
Soon to be added...

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (27th May 19 at 9:58pm UTC)
Background work is being done to add some pence Gorgo's to the checklist. The scans aren't linked yet.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (4th Jun 19 at 8:05pm UTC)
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (4th Jun 19 at 9:15pm UTC)
I'll post it as a Charlton Treasury sized comic book! Well, I can't do that, but bigger scans are always better in my opinion. I shrink my scans the amount I do because it hides flaws. I wonder if large scans like that will make people set down their phones and go back to a desktop computer. At home I use a 32" TV as a monitor. I get frustrated looking at websites designed for a phone on A 32" screen.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (4th Jun 19 at 10:35pm UTC)
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The Grand Comics Database has a horrible scan for the US version and no scan for the pence version. Comic Book Plus has a beat cover image, but at least the colors are closer to being correct. I wish more people were sharing scans for this hard to find stuff.

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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (8th Jun 19 at 12:02am UTC)
I'm working on pence scans of Fightin' Navy. #97 & 98 are done.
The scan for #99 was a lot more difficult to touch up. Sometimes I just have to go with my efforts and hope it looks good enough.
I really got lucky on this one. I don't try to make them perfect. I try to make them look like a higher grade copy you might find on the market.
I had to remove a lot of staining & fill in the worn/faded areas with color.
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Re: Charlton Pence Priced Variants (8th Jun 19 at 12:12am UTC)
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