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pm | Re: Defiant Comics art (31st Oct 17 at 3:04am UTC) | | You've started several, and this thread is the merger of two. There may be more threads. If I find the posts, I can lasso them into this thread.
Here is an altered and cropped version of the ebay photograph.

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pm | Re: Defiant Comics art (31st Oct 17 at 10:30am UTC) | | Thanks. I'm not the sharpest pencil in the shed.
I think smartphone use is the bigger root cause.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics art (31st Oct 17 at 10:33am UTC) | |
Disappointing result, but not unexpected.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics art (1st Nov 17 at 10:20pm UTC) | | Thanks. I'm not the sharpest pencil in the shed. I think smartphone use is the bigger root cause. Defiant1
Yeah, it sucks but that's what I mostly use for internet right now.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics art (1st Nov 17 at 10:23pm UTC) | | Didn't I have a thread where I listed closing DEFIANT art auctions with the ending price and a picture on the post for long-term reference? | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics art (1st Nov 17 at 10:49pm UTC) | | Thanks. I'm not the sharpest pencil in the shed. I think smartphone use is the bigger root cause. Defiant1 Yeah, it sucks but that's what I mostly use for internet right now.
What sucks is visiting a site designed for a smart phone when I'm viewing it with a 32 inch monitor.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (1st Nov 17 at 11:12pm UTC) | | Didn't this thread used to have images of original DEFIANT art that sold on eBay?
I found another one and merged two more threads. That makes 4 threads where you were posting DEFIANT art listings on eBay. 
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (1st Nov 17 at 11:16pm UTC) | |
I saved the image, but it was low resolution. I'm not going to take the effort to display it here. You can if you want. Less than $20 when the same seller is listing select Stray Bullets pages for about 40 times that with a BIN. Something is out of whack or it's proof that certain DEFIANT artists were overpricing their pages.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (3rd Nov 17 at 5:04pm UTC) | | Sweet. I'll keep posting DEFIANT art here as I see it sell. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (7th Jan 19 at 11:15pm UTC) | | Warriors of Plasm #14 (Unpublished Cover)

Owned by Scott Braden
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (7th Jan 19 at 11:21pm UTC) | | Woah....I never saw that one before...
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (8th Jan 19 at 5:50pm UTC) | | It's cool to see Lapham was still doing the next Plasm cover after the Schism event. I remember the Lorca character was left on earth after the Schism storyline according to the last pages of Plasm #13. This cover looks like he was going back to the Org again.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (8th Jan 19 at 10:43pm UTC) | | The report is that the entire issue was penciled, not just the cover. My goal was to recompile all of that for the fans. Too much greed stepped in the way. Buying the art made people split it up the art and try to sell the individual pieces for more. That's why I quit buying Defiant art. I wasn't trying to corner the market. I was trying to reconstruct the unpublished stories. I felt robbed when Defiant shut down. I felt like great things were set before the fans and the rug was pulled out from under our feet.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (9th Jan 19 at 5:57pm UTC) | | Scott Braden is contributing to the zine, including a scan of the unpublished cover of WOP 14. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (10th Jan 19 at 12:13am UTC) | | Scott Braden is contributing to the zine, including a scan of the unpublished cover of WOP 14.
Did he work for DEFIANT? How did he get a picture of the color Schism page I own?
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (6th Feb 19 at 10:20pm UTC) | | I thought about buying art from Lapham directly through a web link I have saved. The prices would have been better by buying larger quantities, but I opted against that. I think that is his eBay account. I've seen the account before, but I might be wrong about it being him.
Hell would fucking freeze over before I'd pay even $200 for a piece of DEFIANT art and it would have to be the best of the best. $1200 is not even remotely tempting. The eBay ad is wrong on the second link also. It was published as the cover to CSN (Comic Shop News) #366 (June 29, 1994) . The ad states that it was unpublished. I do not believe that it was ever intended to be the cover to a Schism comic book. CSN ran artwork on their covers that were not used on the comics themselves. Where would the title logo have been placed? DEFIANT didn't have small title graphics. CSN did.
Furthermore, I think Valman51 is Greg. He can go fuck himself. I wouldn't buy a damn thing from him even if he was charging me only a penny.
You stirred up memories I'd forgotten about. It brought out my colorful language.
I dug a little. I thought Valman51 was Greg. He's implying online that it isn't him. The seller is being identified as someone in Illinois. I don't think it's former board member Vaultkeeper. I think he would've mentioned owning this if he'd owned in in 2002.
I don't even like thinking about the people on the Valiant message board. Some of those names piss me off because they're obnoxious slime balls. Some annoy me because they're ignorant about how obnoxious the slime balls are.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (7th Feb 19 at 1:00am UTC) | | That same seller has the Birth Of Defiant Universe art cover too. I think he once listed that as 5 grand some years back and slowly he marked it down. I think even 12 grand one time before that. Looking at his auctions, he sells current vei artwork too so I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of those forumers. I thought as a forumer there, he would have more knowledge that this was just an ad and at least have more info on the artist.
The only Schism promo art I remember seeing is this one on a promo card and the ads with the Zahnree character floating over earth. Never saw any solicted cover art.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (7th Feb 19 at 6:55am UTC) | | That same seller has the Birth Of Defiant Universe art cover too. I think he once listed that as 5 grand some years back and slowly he marked it down. I think even 12 grand one time before that. Looking at his auctions, he sells current vei artwork too so I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of those forumers. I thought as a forumer there, he would have more knowledge that this was just an ad and at least have more info on the artist.
The only Schism promo art I remember seeing is this one on a promo card and the ads with the Zahnree character floating over earth. Never saw any solicted cover art.
This artwork has someone named Holdridge on it.
I don't know of a Holdridge. I really don't want to think too deeply about it. I've said it before, but I lost interest in DEFIANT art when the artists started jacking up the prices. There was no market for the art before my site. As soon as my site started sparking interest in the comics and art, prices escalated ten-fold. Does it make any sense for a person to drive up the prices of something they want to buy? They can ask what they want, but I'm not going to drive up the prices and then rush out and pay those prices. I have some degree of self-respect. I really only wanted the unpublished art so that I could recreate the stories. The creators started splitting up the artwork when they found out they could sell it. My moderate interest dropped to zero at that point. As far as I'm concerned, Lapham's art is in less demand than ever. He simplified his style and in my opinion he devalued the worth of all his art.
Buying art is just a novelty thing for me. I'm not yearning for the best. I don't want the worst at all. My collection is just a random whim to have a representation of the artist's work. I'm more likely to buy art now if I'm meeting the creator at a show. It'd just be a reminder that I met the creator.
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pm | Re: Defiant art on eBay (20th Jul 19 at 1:24am UTC) | | Didn’t I have a thread here somewhere that kept track of Defiant art on eBay? I searched and couldn’t find it. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (20th Jul 19 at 11:27pm UTC) | | Couldn't access the board yesterday. I merged your posts from yesterday with an older thread. Evidently, you've created 5 threads over the past 10 years or so and I keep merging them. LOL!
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (21st Jul 19 at 7:49pm UTC) | | Lol!!! Thanks. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (21st Jul 19 at 10:17pm UTC) | |
I’m surprised you didn’t comment on this, Defiant1. You don’t like the page?
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 1:40am UTC) | | I’m surprised you didn’t comment on this, Defiant1. You don’t like the page?
It's okay. I don't buy off of eBay so there isn't much to say. One of the unpublished pages caught my attention more. I've spent a lot of money the last couple of months. I considered contacting Anthony directly, but since I'm in a savings mode again, I'm not buying anything. I saved the images.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 1:43am UTC) | | The pages are also more expensive than what I paid. I'm more interested if there is a market for Dogs of War art. I think it's VERY small.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 4:42am UTC) | | Couldn't access the board yesterday. I merged your posts from yesterday with an older thread. Evidently, you've created 5 threads over the past 10 years or so and I keep merging them. LOL!
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In my defense, when the board changed over to this one that probably made me start at least one of those threads!
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 9:06am UTC) | | Couldn't access the board yesterday. I merged your posts from yesterday with an older thread. Evidently, you've created 5 threads over the past 10 years or so and I keep merging them. LOL!
Defiant1 In my defense, when the board changed over to this one that probably made me start at least one of those threads!
I wasn't including threads from the old board. The reason is that you read the board on your phone. Too much information is here and phones aren't the best way to read the internet. Twitter tried to force a phone interface onto Desktop users and I deleted my account.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 9:12am UTC) | |
This page sold for $289 in 2017. I thought the auction above was overpriced. The demand for DEFIANT art is very low. Unless you encounter one person that just has to have it, you can't really factor it as a good investment at this time.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 4:01pm UTC) | | That’s interesting info about that page selling previously! Yeah, I’d prefer having a computer, but I don’t. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (22nd Jul 19 at 10:32pm UTC) | | Didn't this thread used to have images of original DEFIANT art that sold on eBay?
I understand. Gowaltrip fell on hard times and was without internet for awhile. I think he was finally able to get a tablet. I've lost touch with him now, but I got the impression based upon Facebook that he had to sell his whole collection. I might be wrong, but that's because we haven't communicated in years.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (1st Aug 19 at 5:52pm UTC) | | That’s a shame you guys are out of touch. But, it happens in life. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (1st Aug 19 at 11:07pm UTC) | | In life, people part ways and go different paths. I used to think "Hey, I need to reach out and keep in touch with that person." After several high school reunions, I no longer think that. High School friends had forgotten memories that I felt were priceless. They've focused on their families and have only vague memories of what was special to me. We went separate ways for a reason. It was a conscious choice. Gowaltrip made such a choice and I'd feel really bad if he had spent 5 years trying to hold onto his comic book past while he suffered in other ways. His choices are organically evolved. I wish him the best, but I don't have a need to live in the past and question decision in the past. We all make the best choices we can with the information we know. I trust that he did that when he stopped visiting here. I did go and check his Facebook page. He's holding on and he now has a daughter that is priceless to him. He's not talking about everything he dealing with, but I get the impression it's a day to day challenge whatever it is.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (29th Aug 19 at 10:10pm UTC) | | There is a ton of Dogs of War original art on eBay right now. | |
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (30th Aug 19 at 1:49am UTC) | |
I saw that and I had already grabbed the image...

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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (30th Aug 19 at 1:49am UTC) | | There is a ton of Dogs of War original art on eBay right now.
There can't be a ton! I own most of them. LOL!
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (30th Aug 19 at 2:41am UTC) | | There is a ton of Dogs of War original art on eBay right now. There can't be a ton! I own most of them. LOL! Defiant1
Images saved. Several of the pages are the same unsold ones from a few months back.
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (30th Aug 19 at 3:20am UTC) | | I saw that and I had already grabbed the image...  Defiant1
Nice!
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (30th Aug 19 at 3:31am UTC) | | I grabbed the jpeg. I did not buy the page. LOL!
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pm | Re: Defiant Comics Art (30th Aug 19 at 7:33am UTC) | | Well, it’s cool to have the jpeg.
I wish that people selling art had a better way to scan or photograph their art.
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