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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (31st Aug 17 at 10:27pm UTC)Quote Reply
Cool. Smiley

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 3:02am UTC)Quote Reply
The Art Holcomb interview JC Vaughn did for the fanzine has a major bombshell. Art speaks of the planned ending of DOGS OF WAR.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 3:17am UTC)Quote Reply
Nice! Eagerly waiting. Smiley

I take it from your avatar, the fanzine is all color? Smiley

P.s. 4 more months till the 25th anniversary of defiant....

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 3:19am UTC)Quote Reply
Good point about the anniversary of DEFIANT! It'll probably be all color. I'm not positive yet.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 3:20am UTC)Quote Reply
 
Nice! Eagerly waiting. Smiley

I take it from your avatar, the fanzine is all color? Smiley

P.s. 4 more months till the 25th anniversary of defiant....

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Four more months? So it was launched in January 1993?

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 3:26am UTC)Quote Reply
I think February had the plasm zero inside that previews issue but I count the anniversary by year. Smiley
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 3:27am UTC)Quote Reply
Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe we'll tie the Fanzine into it being 25 years since the start of DEFIANT.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 5:29am UTC)Quote Reply
The Zine is going to be far better than I expected. There's going to be some content that might even amaze Defiant1.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 9:25am UTC)Quote Reply
 
The Art Holcomb interview JC Vaughn did for the fanzine has a major bombshell. Art speaks of the planned ending of DOGS OF WAR.


We already knew the series had a bombshell ending. Maybe something more?

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 9:27am UTC)Quote Reply
 
The Zine is going to be far better than I expected. There's going to be some content that might even amaze Defiant1.


I'm not easily amazed, so don't be disappointed. Let's shoot for pleasantly surprised. LOL!

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 2:51pm UTC)Quote Reply
Maybe there's a Dogs Of War #0 up his sleeve? Smiley

I still want to see Chasm #0! I mailed out for that issue years ago and got my envelope returned back to me unopened! Smiley

It's funny how Charlemange and Great Grimmax got their own zero issues the following year Chasm #0 was announced and not a shred of anything has appeared from Chasm.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 4:15pm UTC)Quote Reply
The River Group had an over-aggresive business plan. Between sales dropping and DEFIANT not being able to keep up with the flow of artwork, they were probably at a stalemate with one another.

I'd never heard the story of what happened for people who sent in for the Chasm #0. I made no effort. I was fed up with the cards by that point.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (5th Sep 17 at 11:54pm UTC)Quote Reply
The comic itself was the main reason I sent out for it. I think I either threw the returned envelope away or I slipped it in a Dark Dominion binder. It's just odd how nothing came of it for being one of the early ones mentioned.

Even Glory #0 got her shot! Speaking of which. Didn't JCV edit those from the Overstreet Monthly magazine back then? Or FAN Magazine for the Charlemange #0 comic? Maybe he actually has a connection to Defiant year two....

hmmmm.....

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Sep 17 at 12:44am UTC)Quote Reply
My first awareness of Mr. Vaughn's name was the Battlestar Galactica comic that had a short story by Jim Shooter. Then, over time, I kept seeing the name more often. Eventually, it clicked that his name and Jim's name seemed to be connected and it seemed like more than a coincidence. Eventually, I realized he worked for Gemstone and that he'd written the DEFIANT article for Overstreet. It was really a slow and evolving process to even know he existed. I don't really know the extent of what he did in the past.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Sep 17 at 1:04am UTC)Quote Reply
JCV wrote some articles about some Valiant fans and I had some disagreements with him online. I didn't classify the disagreement as anything more than a difference of opinion. In a way, I think of him as the innocent guy that didn't realize he'd stepped in Image.
The Image being his interview of Mr. Scott from the Valiant messageboard... and Greg too.

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Mr Hanky the x-mas poo icon! Yes!

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Sep 17 at 2:52am UTC)Quote Reply
Whoa.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Sep 17 at 3:45am UTC)Quote Reply
Exactly. I toned that post down for you. I knew you didn't want my uncensored opinion.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (10th Sep 17 at 2:42am UTC)Quote Reply
The number of interviews we're getting lined up for the zine are climbing. Very exciting.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (10th Sep 17 at 3:32am UTC)Quote Reply
Maybe you can get a bigger publisher to publish it for you.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (10th Sep 17 at 3:20pm UTC)Quote Reply
I was thinking of trying to get it into Previews.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (10th Sep 17 at 3:41pm UTC)Quote Reply
Obviously J.C. would know more about the requirements, but I know that Diamond had raised their minimum requirements for being listed. Many high quality publishers are unable to be listed because the order quantities on their product was not meeting minimum Diamond thresholds that were required required for being listed. I'd definitely ask J.C if it's feasible.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (12th Sep 17 at 7:42am UTC)Quote Reply
Yeah, I will. Can't hurt to try.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (12th Sep 17 at 2:42pm UTC)Quote Reply
Twomorrows puts out some good magazine collections....run by Roy Thomas:

https://www.twomorrows.com/

They did this one awhile ago:

http://subs.twomorrows.com/awshoot/AlterEgo137Online.pdf


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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (12th Sep 17 at 10:19pm UTC)Quote Reply
Thanks VS.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (21st Sep 17 at 8:38pm UTC)Quote Reply
Defiant1, where's the Greg Boone interview you recently posted to the board? I thought you put it in this thread. I'll be interviewing him anew for the zine, but wanted to consult that interview in case it gave me an idea or two to revisit. Ty.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (21st Sep 17 at 10:58pm UTC)Quote Reply
Here is the link... same thread.

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You've already written an interview piece for the fanzine. Quit playing modest!

http://defiant.x10.bz/Creators/Greg_Boone.html

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I forgot about this. I guess I could use it!!


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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (11th Jan 18 at 2:10am UTC)Quote Reply
Jim Hollister had a wonderful surprise for me tonight. I've been struggling with illness over the last month or so, and consequently haven't been able to work on inventorying his Defiant collection. I dropped in on him briefly tonight and he he had finished the inventory on his own. The document he produced will be used for the checklist for the Defiant fanzine. I have to type it into a Word document still, and it'll have to be proof read etc. Once that is finished I'll be taking a look at what's ready for the zine. We'll probably pretty much just go with what we have at that point. I'm hoping the Defiant fanzine will be ready to publish in about three months. I think that's a fair estimate.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (11th Jan 18 at 3:47am UTC)Quote Reply
Sounds good.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (12th Jan 18 at 12:09am UTC)Quote Reply
Give us a 2018 teaser! {Grin}

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Any jim shooter cameos in the fanzine?

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (12th Jan 18 at 5:58pm UTC)Quote Reply
It depends on if one of the main Defiant creators comes through as far as whether there will be any Shooter pics. Well, once I start reaching out to people about getting close to publishing I still might be able to come up with some surprises.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (17th Feb 18 at 5:37pm UTC)Quote Reply
JG JONES interview for fanzine completed.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (17th Feb 18 at 7:21pm UTC)Quote Reply
 
JG JONES interview for fanzine completed.


Nice....getting exciting...

Side note...JG Jones included one of the unpublished Dark Dominion covers in his later sketchbooks:

http://comics.vforums.co.uk/Defiant/5327/dark-dominion#reply-22

Small section of the cover art but it made it to print....it's about ashcan size the sketchbook....


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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (17th Feb 18 at 10:56pm UTC)Quote Reply
I might bump up my order quantity to 20 copies at this rate. No promises though. I've got extra money on hand now so it's easy to say.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (18th Feb 18 at 4:00pm UTC)Quote Reply
I'd like a few. Not sure how many. Smiley

Sounds like the Defiant reunion is getting bigger. From this thread I count:

- Joe James
- JG Jones
- Art Holcomb (Chasm #0!)
- JC Vaughn


I guess the next wish list of creators would be JayJay, Shooter, Lapham, Paulene Weiss, Georges Jeantey (Dogs Of War!)....Steve Ditko?.... {Grin}



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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (21st Feb 18 at 12:26pm UTC)Quote Reply
 
 
JG JONES interview for fanzine completed.


Nice....getting exciting...

Side note...JG Jones included one of the unpublished Dark Dominion covers in his later sketchbooks:

http://comics.vforums.co.uk/Defiant/5327/dark-dominion#reply-22

Small section of the cover art but it made it to print....it's about ashcan size the sketchbook....


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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (21st Feb 18 at 12:28pm UTC)Quote Reply
 
I might bump up my order quantity to 20 copies at this rate. No promises though. I've got extra money on hand now so it's easy to say.

Defiant1


Thanks for your support, whatever you decide on! I just read the JG JONES interview. I couldn't imagine a better one. He speaks highly of SHOOTER, that much I can say.
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I think all of the DEFIANT creators look back on their time with the company and think highly of that period in their lives. Charles Yoakum is an exception and one other person felt betrayed at the end, but still was proud of the experience. I won't name the other person's name. I think an early writer of Charlemagne #1 had a gripe at the time also. Forget his name. After a quick look, I think Philip Nutman had an issue with Shooter. He did the plot and I think he came from a background of writing novels, not comics. My memory on that is vague at this point.

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J.G. Jones was good friends with JayJay for awhile. I think they drifted apart from keeping in touch after he got married. J.G. Jones' wife had worked for DC as I guess a sales rep. She was phone friends with a girl named Jennifer that managed a local comic shop in my area. They talked regularly. They finally got to meet at a convention in my area.
I'm pretty sure he drew his wife for this cover...
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I have a big interview commitment for the fanzine. I don't want to announce it yet, but it's really large.
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I have a big interview commitment for the fanzine. I don't want to announce it yet, but it's really large.


Uh oh! You screwed up and announced it.

My guess is that you would not describe an Alan Weiss interview as "really large". JayJay is happy to chat with anyone, so that isn't "really large". Steve Ditko doesn't typically do interviews. Adam Polina's career has faded since he moved to Asia and started selling scalp razors. That leaves only Jim. Congrats!

As soon as you mentioned that J.C. Vaughn was involved, I had already assumed that you'd be eventually interviewing Jim.

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Well, I don't want to jinx it!
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I think Jim would be proud to do the interview for this publication. His career has found a renewed positive shift since he started touring the convention circuit and doing more interviews.

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I agree. I've been fortunate in that due to the work of others this is really going to be a quality publication, too. I'll give comps to all creators interviewed as well.
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You will find in life that who you know and who you associate with has a lot to do with how far you go. If you set the bar low, you get low results. Creativity feeds upon itself and and when you collect motivated people who are ambitious, a group can inspire one another to do better and be more creative. The difference is that you become relevant on a larger scale by working with other creative types.

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With Jim in the fanzine this sounds like an official sequel to the Defiant universe. Smiley Great timing for the quarter century anniversary. I would ask what he had in mind with the Defiant characters when he wrote the Fatale/DarkDominion special script and if he had planned to merge the universes together for Broadway year two. I remember hearing somewhere that he got the defiant rights as part of a settlement with river group somewhere so maybe that's where he might have headed with the Defiant characters. Maybe he doesn't remember but the Fatale script might jog his memory. Defiant comics would have looked great with the Broadway production quality he had made with the Broadway books. Even with the glossy cardstock covers they had early on. To me, Broadway was the best produced set of comics out of all his comic universes.

Another Defiant alumni is Chris Claremont even though he only did two issues of Prudence & Caution. He was actually at a convention nearby this weekend but I didn't notice it till the next day. I'm sure he's forgotten about with all his X-Men work on the brain.



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I can't remember if I've ever seen Claremont in person. Probably not. I used to just walk by Peter David's table. I don't normally converse with writers at shows.

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I saw Peter David at one convention. He was selling signed scripts of the "New Titans" and "Spaced" tv show scripts from his table. I thumbed through them and alot of them had layout pages too. Kieth Giffen was selling scripts too with his art as well. Black and white photocopies signed.

If Shooter sold any scripts of his own at his conventions, i'd add to cart.

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He could scan or take pictures of him holding some of the original items he brings to show and transcribe his stories about them along with the pictures. He could bind the booklets with a cover. Starbrand could let Jim put the DEFIANT fanzine on his table when Jim does shows and have Jim sell the fanzines on a consignment basis for a cut of the sales.

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That's a good idea. Give Jim a stack to sell at his conventions. Smiley

Imagine if this excites new fans to get into or discover Defiant again. He gets tons of fans anyway for his Marvel work and i'm sure they'd buy whatever he sells at his tables.

Last year I saw his table and he displays the first edition Plasm binder with pride next to his giant portfolios.



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Why would Jim be any less proud of DEFIANT. It was closer to really being his own company. He still had the financial partners, but it was him getting to really call a lot of theshots.

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With Jim in the fanzine this sounds like an official sequel to the Defiant universe. Smiley Great timing for the quarter century anniversary. I would ask what he had in mind with the Defiant characters when he wrote the Fatale/DarkDominion special script and if he had planned to merge the universes together for Broadway year two. I remember hearing somewhere that he got the defiant rights as part of a settlement with river group somewhere so maybe that's where he might have headed with the Defiant characters. Maybe he doesn't remember but the Fatale script might jog his memory. Defiant comics would have looked great with the Broadway production quality he had made with the Broadway books. Even with the glossy cardstock covers they had early on. To me, Broadway was the best produced set of comics out of all his comic universes.

Another Defiant alumni is Chris Claremont even though he only did two issues of Prudence & Caution. He was actually at a convention nearby this weekend but I didn't notice it till the next day. I'm sure he's forgotten about with all his X-Men work on the brain.





If there is a Shooter interview in this fanzine, I won't be doing it. It would be in far better hands than mine, and as much as I'd like to suggest your question, VS, I think I'll stay away from suggestions on a potential interview with the big guy.

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That's a good idea. Give Jim a stack to sell at his conventions. Smiley

Imagine if this excites new fans to get into or discover Defiant again. He gets tons of fans anyway for his Marvel work and i'm sure they'd buy whatever he sells at his tables.

Last year I saw his table and he displays the first edition Plasm binder with pride next to his giant portfolios.





I definitely plan on getting a comp copy of the zine to Shooter. I'm not sure I'll get him much more than that, as I'm a small publisher.

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He could scan or take pictures of him holding some of the original items he brings to show and transcribe his stories about them along with the pictures. He could bind the booklets with a cover. Starbrand could let Jim put the DEFIANT fanzine on his table when Jim does shows and have Jim sell the fanzines on a consignment basis for a cut of the sales.

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I might check into this. Thanks.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (3rd Mar 18 at 8:26pm UTC)Quote Reply
 
 
He could scan or take pictures of him holding some of the original items he brings to show and transcribe his stories about them along with the pictures. He could bind the booklets with a cover. Starbrand could let Jim put the DEFIANT fanzine on his table when Jim does shows and have Jim sell the fanzines on a consignment basis for a cut of the sales.

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I might check into this. Thanks.


I understand the logistical issue is that someone has to cover the publishing costs for extra copies that might not sell immediately.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (14th Sep 18 at 2:15am UTC)Quote Reply
I finally have figured out a way to put the comprehensive DEFIANT checklist together as far as formatting it for the fanzine. I think we’ll have it to the printer this year. That is important, as it’s the 25th anniversary of DEFIANT.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (14th Sep 18 at 8:03am UTC)Quote Reply
I can see that being a roadblock. I know that all the media crosssovers and inserts help to promote the characters. Unfortunately, it created a complex mess for tracking and listing everything. A marketing company should consider that when promoting a comics line. Sometimes a simple straightforward approach can be a better path to a loyal customer.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (20th Sep 18 at 5:00pm UTC)Quote Reply
Going to be working on the zine today with Corvette Jim.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (20th Sep 18 at 11:22pm UTC)Quote Reply
Sounds good. Jim is a great resource.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Oct 18 at 2:12am UTC)Quote Reply
The zine is nearly finished. Shooter just turned in the first batch of answers for the JC Vaughn interview too.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Oct 18 at 2:53am UTC)Quote Reply
The DEFIANT fanzine I’m putting together will have an exclusive Jim Shooter interview by JC Vaughn. We’re close to the finish line as well. Recently I’ve been working with corvettejim to put together a DEFIANT checklist for the zine. Jim has the most extensive DEFIANT collection known to exist, and is pretty much a DEFIANT savant. We have a JG Jones interview for the zine in the can, along with a Joe James interview and more. I’ve been blessed to be able to get a scan of the only colored Schism page too. Just lots of exclusive stuff for the DEFIANT zine. As an added bonus, my ugly mug should appear in it somewhere as well.
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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (6th Oct 18 at 4:13am UTC)Quote Reply
Silly man! I OWN the only color Schism page.

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I added a link to Pauline Weiss' Facebook page on the creators thread here.

Have I ever shown you a picture of my ugly mug?

https://www.zazzle.com/big_ugly_mug-168330067771170178

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (17th Oct 18 at 11:12pm UTC)Quote Reply
Any new teasers from the fanzine?

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That Schism with the monster page still looks kool.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (15th Nov 18 at 8:25pm UTC)Quote Reply
We're awaiting the last and most important interview...
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We're awaiting the last and most important interview...


Thanks for the update.

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Re: Putting together a DEFIANT Comics fanzine (27th Nov 18 at 2:24pm UTC)Quote Reply
What would be a must-ask question for Jim Shooter regarding Defiant? No guarantee it would be asked if theoretically we land an interview with him.
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I guess a simple question would be is if he's interested in doing it again with the same characters if the opportunity became available. I don't think "what could have been" interests me as much as what could be.

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That interview is a home run.
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Jim gets asked the same questions a lot. I just hope it's not the same stuff I've read before.

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