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Bob Burden (12th Feb 14 at 6:22am UTC)
Wow, about Bob Burden.

Do you speak with him at all on a regular basis?
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Re: My favorites (12th Feb 14 at 7:19am UTC)
Wow, about Bob Burden.

Do you speak with him at all on a regular basis?


I wouldn't say "regular". I'd say "periodic". The last time I spoke with him was in December at a comic show. He wasn't setup, but he was there briefly with flyers to promote his most recent kickstarter project. The woman who helps him with his web page was there. I've known her for years, but I'd never actually seen them together in the same place. He got her setup to give out the flyers and he left. I've been to his house once when a mutual female friend was taking him to the airport. I initially met Bob through her. I was hanging out with her and that's one of the things she had promised Bob to do that day. I wouldn't be able to find his house if you paid me even though I commute past his area frequently. I do remember he had an easel setup in his living room and there was a rather large Geoff Darrow original art piece on the easel. After talking to Bob a year or so ago, I discovered that we have a lot of the same friends and hung out with a lot of the same people since the late 70's. We just mysteriously never crossed paths and met until the 90's. As I think back, it was really odd because I'd be at a comic shop and someone would mention that Bob had just left. I'd say "who?" and they'd say "Oh! You know him! He's hung out for years. He drew Flaming Carrot!" I'd shrug my shoulders and tell them I had no idea who they were talking about. This might happen at two different comic shops in the same day. Eventually, some retailer friends had a signing with Joe Linsner in their store. Bob decided to setup alongside them. That's where I actually met him. Since then, I'll just run into him in public. Once I was shopping at a computer repair store. He was there too. Another time I walked into a BBQ restaurant. He had just sat down and asked me to join him. Once I was walking around a club and smelled some very pungent food. I looked to see where the smell was coming from and there was Bob chowing down. He invited me to join hm again and Lamar Waldron (publisher of Visions magazine) shows up to meet him. I didn't know Lamar, but I'd read about his divorce for years and I even had a picture of him at a convention from many years earlier. Lamar told me the story of how Greg Theakston met (and subsequently married and divorced) another girl I knew. I wouldn't say me and Bob are close friends, but if we both show up at the same place, there's plenty to discuss and we might hang out for awhile. I have stories I won't post online.

Here's a picture I took of Bob talking to Lamar in either 1999 or 2000. I didn't know who Bob was talking to at the time.
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Here's a sketch Bob did for me at a show. I bought a hardcover..
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Some oddball stuff I've bought from him...
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The back cover...
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I have a B&W cover version of this as well as this color cover version...
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Re: My favorites (12th Feb 14 at 7:29am UTC)
I love Flaming Carrot, but my personal experience with Mr Burden went quite differently than yours. The first was very quick and nothing special, the second was rather toxic.

Both being someone who makes a "living" from creative work, both I understand his dismissal of me as a Fanboy (even though I was a writer for four comic sites at the time and qualified as press) and think it unfortunate.

So I try to like the art for the art sake, enjoy the story for the wit, and not think about who does it. If I were a fan of Roman Polanski work I might have a different approach and experience, people pick and choose their fights, I guess.

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Re: My favorites (12th Feb 14 at 6:40pm UTC)
 
I love Flaming Carrot, but my personal experience with Mr Burden went quite differently than yours. The first was very quick and nothing special, the second was rather toxic.

Both being someone who makes a "living" from creative work, both I understand his dismissal of me as a Fanboy (even though I was a writer for four comic sites at the time and qualified as press) and think it unfortunate.

So I try to like the art for the art sake, enjoy the story for the wit, and not think about who does it. If I were a fan of Roman Polanski work I might have a different approach and experience, people pick and choose their fights, I guess.



Bob is an unusual character. In the end he has to make money from it. I understand that. Depending upon what you said (or what the person in front of you said), you might get categorized as a gushing fanboy. He seems to be dismissive of what people say even when he's listening. His brain works on more than one level at once.

Many creators/celebrities have rubbed me the wrong way or annoyed me. Comic "celebrities" are more likely to get a scathing sarcastic response because I don't consider most comics creators to be a celebrity. I view them more as an average normal person that got off the @ss to do something. While noteworthy, it hardly warrants the worship some of these people get. I met Bob through some good friends. We shared a dozen more good friends. It's unlikely he'd treat me like a fanboy. Some advice I heard years ago was that if you want to engage a celebrity in conversation, don't talk about their work. Talk about what interests them. I've always done that, but hearing someone else describe the logic behind it made me realize why I don't get treated as rudely when others might get treated rudely.

People that memorably annoyed me: Morena Baccarin (bitchy/rude), Erin Gray (bitchy, though she pretended like she was kidding), Lou Ferrigno
People that impressed me quite well: Gigi Edgely (Really fun personality), Mike Judge (Normal, but an introvert)

I respect Neal Adams' legacy, but I can see you'd need to be careful to sidestep his own ego.

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Re: My favorites (13th Feb 14 at 3:40pm UTC)
There was a period of time Flaming Carrot was my favorite comic.
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Re: My favorites (13th Feb 14 at 6:23pm UTC)
 
There was a period of time Flaming Carrot was my favorite comic.


I told Bob that the biggest complaint I've been hearing online is that he hasn't been releasing enough new material. He said he's got new stuff on the way, but as we all know, it comes at a snail's pace and it's been piggybacked with material that people already own. I was asked not to talk about a couple of collaborations that were under discussion. One of them interested me greatly.

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Re: My favorites (13th Feb 14 at 8:48pm UTC)
 
 
I love Flaming Carrot, but my personal experience with Mr Burden went quite differently than yours. The first was very quick and nothing special, the second was rather toxic.

Both being someone who makes a "living" from creative work, both I understand his dismissal of me as a Fanboy (even though I was a writer for four comic sites at the time and qualified as press) and think it unfortunate.

So I try to like the art for the art sake, enjoy the story for the wit, and not think about who does it. If I were a fan of Roman Polanski work I might have a different approach and experience, people pick and choose their fights, I guess.



Bob is an unusual character. In the end he has to make money from it. I understand that. Depending upon what you said (or what the person in front of you said), you might get categorized as a gushing fanboy. He seems to be dismissive of what people say even when he's listening. His brain works on more than one level at once.

Many creators/celebrities have rubbed me the wrong way or annoyed me. Comic "celebrities" are more likely to get a scathing sarcastic response because I don't consider most comics creators to be a celebrity. I view them more as an average normal person that got off the @ss to do something. While noteworthy, it hardly warrants the worship some of these people get. I met Bob through some good friends. We shared a dozen more good friends. It's unlikely he'd treat me like a fanboy. Some advice I heard years ago was that if you want to engage a celebrity in conversation, don't talk about their work. Talk about what interests them. I've always done that, but hearing someone else describe the logic behind it made me realize why I don't get treated as rudely when others might get treated rudely.

People that memorably annoyed me: Morena Baccarin (bitchy/rude), Erin Gray (bitchy, though she pretended like she was kidding), Lou Ferrigno
People that impressed me quite well: Gigi Edgely (Really fun personality), Mike Judge (Normal, but an introvert)

I respect Neal Adams' legacy, but I can see you'd need to be careful to sidestep his own ego.

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I always like to hear how creators and celebrities act to people at conventions. A friend recently told me that Neal Adams was rude to him at one convention in an elevator a few months ago at a convention, but I can kind of understand Neal b/c my friend can be really annoying in a kissass hagling way. Another person told me Melissa Milano was rude to him at a recent convention. Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) gets a bad rep but he's been sick with bad knees and being over 7 feet tall and old.

From my experiences so far....

George Perez - super nice and seemed to remember me from other signings. Dave Gibbons - really cool and friendly and didn't mind signing a ton my books. Dennis Callero - whatta cunt. {Grin} haha...he was so miserable when I took a couple books to sign. When I sensed he was in a bad mood, I tried to thank him in a peppy way and it was like he was mute and wouldn't talk at all.

Tony Bedard - really nice and enthusiastic when i took him some oddities to sign. Georges Jeanty was gracious and nice as well. Bob Layton was nice when I took a Cheese Rex and some Iron Man comics to sign. One French artist was nice and drew a couple sketches for me. I had a chance to see Nick Cardy before he passed and he signed a Bat Lash comic for me.

Alot of '80s era wrestlers were pretty nice too at a last convention I went too. Some of the tv actresses from the '80s looked kind of depressing with no one visiting their tables.



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Re: My favorites (13th Feb 14 at 11:16pm UTC)
In retrospect, I think Neal Adams questioned me a few times because he acted like I might be trying to profit off the sketch he was doing for me. That was definitely NOT the case. A handful of artists annoyed me after getting a sketch from him because they said he charges too much. I'd have paid MORE if I could've afforded more.

Another person who impressed me was Trish Stratus. She saw me limping from a hurt foot in the aisle and asked if I was okay. She was still modeling fitness covers when I saw her. I think she bulked up more later.

Linsner - okay.
Scott Campbell - okay
Brunner - okay
Wrightson - okay

I've had a dozen opportunities to talk to Steranko and I just walk away. I've heard some horrible stories about him from other artists. He attended a party my friends threw, but I didn't go.

Budd Root - Super nice
Dark One - nice
Georges Jeanty - nice

I've had many opportunities to talk to Peter David. I avoid him also.

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Re: Bob Burden (1st Feb 15 at 5:43pm UTC)
There was a one day show. It was crowded, so i was glad to get out of there. I bought 2 items.

Pandemonium Blvd. HC (Kickstarter Item Limited to 850 w/all signed & numbered)
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He drew a sketch in the back of it. I'll tray and get a photo of it later.

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Re: Bob Burden (4th Feb 15 at 5:05am UTC)
Here's a lousy photo of the sketch Bob drew in the book above...

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I had to leave while Bob was setting up. His marker was running out of ink, so it was a bit rushed and faded. That's fine by me though.

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Re: Bob Burden (2nd Jul 17 at 4:02pm UTC)
Went to a comic show. Got this from Bob who was just walking around. He was not setup.

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Bob was standing next to me when I made an offer on My Secret #2. More on that in an Atlas comics thread.
A few minutes later, Roxanne Starr offered me a "Flaming Frame" series piece of Bob's inked artwork. It had a "Happy Birthday" theme. I opted to pass, but told her I might be interested at a future date.

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Re: Bob Burden (2nd Jul 17 at 4:27pm UTC)
That's pretty cool. I read he wrote a Gumby series and the stories sounded trippy. I kind of want to check out the ones he wrote.

I could use a convention right now. Smiley
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Re: Bob Burden (2nd Jul 17 at 4:37pm UTC)
I think Blackthorne (?) published the Gumby Comic. It was the company that pulled itself up from the ashes of Pacific when it died. I'm not sure which (if not both) of the Schane brothers was involved. Blue Dolphin was another imprint that arose as Pacific was dying.

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Re: Bob Burden (2nd Jul 17 at 5:14pm UTC)
 
I think Blackthorne (?) published the Gumby Comic. It was the company that pulled itself up from the ashes of Pacific when it died. I'm not sure which (if not both) of the Schane brothers was involved. Blue Dolphin was another imprint that arose as Pacific was dying.

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Nah, the ones Bob did came after the Blackthorne 3-D books. He did two Gumby books for Comico and worked on some of the Gumby books for Wildcard Ink. Apparently there are going to be some new Gumby books from Papercutz with no involvement from Burden.

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Re: Bob Burden (2nd Jul 17 at 9:03pm UTC)
The expert has spoken. I had only remembered the Blackthorne logo on one I saw.
I'm sure I've seen others, but it wasn't something I wasted to collect.

Bob is working on a comic about Jack Kerouac, but I don't remember the full title. Someone was trying to describe who he was to me because I recognized the name. He mistakenly referenced Hunter S. Thompson. Bob light-heartedly said "I'm doing a comic about Hunter S. Thompson next." If that does pan out, the idea originated due to my ignorance.

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