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American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 9:32pm UTC)
Shooter returns!

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/11/26/jim-shooter-tell-bedtime-stories-impressionable-children/
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Famous editor-in-chief of Marvel, writer of the original Secret Wars, and founder of both Valiant Entertainment and Defiant Comics, Jim Shooter returns to comics in February, writing for the new horror anthology series Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children.

Published by American Mythology, Bedtime Stories also names creators JC Vaughn, Mark Wheatley, James Nelms and Joe James.

Look for it in February…

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I've never heard of this comic company....but i'll be ordering!

http://www.americanmythology.net/


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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:12pm UTC)
Unfortunately it's an anthology, so we don't know how many pages he wrote.

https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161215 (Joe James cover)
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161216 (Mark Wheatley cover)
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161217 (Blank sketch cover)

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:29pm UTC)
Me am pleased.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:33pm UTC)
Good eye, VS. I've never heard of American Mythology. Anyone know anything about them?
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:36pm UTC)
Some noteworthy biographies..

Michael Bornstein - American Mythology's Publisher, Michael Bornstein, is a lifelong comic book fan and collector. He believes in creating a company that celebrates comic books as modern mythology and delivers a wide range of entertaining stories. With a passion for comics of all types and genres, Michael has put together an all star team of creative storytellers to help bring this vision of a 21st century publisher to life. During the day, Michael is a prominent pediatrician in the great state of Texas.

J.C. Vaughn, co-writer of Mighty Samson and creator of such great comics as Vampire, PA, the hit title Zombie-Proof, acclaimed series, Bedtime Stories for Impressionable Children, and the Associate Publisher for Gemstone Publishing



Some other things of note:
American Mythology Welcomes New Creators!
We are dedicated to working with only artists and writers that are passionate about the properties we represent. We are thrilled to welcome Greg LaRocque, the fantastic artist of The Flash and Web of Spider-Man, to our stable. Greg is an incredible talent and is already working on a top secret project that we will be announcing soon!
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http://catfish-comics.net63.net/Catfish_Convention_Flyer.pdf
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The Worlds of J.C. Vaughn coming to American Mythololgy!
From the mind of comic creator extraordinaire, J.C. Vaughn, American Mythology is pleased to announce that it has acquired the rights to bring the worlds of J.C. Vaughn to the pages of American Mythology comics. From his work on the hit series Vampire, PA, to his fan-favorite series - Zombie-Proof, Vaughn has entertained and delighted fans across the board with his innovative and entertaining books. Look for his stories to be gracing our pages in the near future!
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A surprise is coming for Sci-Fi Fans and Comics Fans Alike...
We're practically bursting at the seams waiting to make this announcement but for now all we can say is that American Mythology is in the final stages of closing a deal that will bring one of the most exciting and beloved Sci-Fi Military dramas of the past twenty years back to life, finding a home in the pages of American Mythology comics. Stay tuned and watch for this exciting announcement!

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:37pm UTC)
I know nothing about them.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:37pm UTC)
A blank variant is kind of annoying. I guess the blue one is the Joe James cover.

I was looking at the website....they have some licensed comics for Stargate, The Three Stooges & Pink Panther.

I see JC Vaughn's name on the solicits....probably another co-writing deal like in Mighty Samson.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:44pm UTC)
Have they put anything out yet?
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:48pm UTC)
Not sure. They have the license for Pink Panther.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:50pm UTC)
I went to mycomicshop.com and searched "mythology". Looks like they've got a few of American Mythology's books in stock.



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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:50pm UTC)
I was looking to see if PinkPanther was from ClassicMedia. I can't tell.

Maybe i'll buy latest print version of the Previews catalog to see if they hype Shooter's name more.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:50pm UTC)
Strange transition for the publisher...
That's a problem with the world today. I should not have instant access to his other career info.

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Dr. Michael Bornstein opened his private practice in Fort Bend County in 1993. He established roots in the community and his private practice grew into the Pediatric Center in 2000.
Dr. Bornstein received a Bachelor of Arts degree with Cum Laude honors from Harvard University. He completed Boston University School of Medicine training in May of 1990. After residency, and internship at the University of California, Irvine he received his certification from the National Board of Medical Examiners, Neonatal and Pediatric Advanced Life Support, and the American Board of Pediatrics. He has hospital affiliations at Oak Bend Medical Center, Texas Children's, Methodist Sugar Land and Memorial Southwest. Dr. Bornstein is affiliated with many medical organizations and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Dr. Bornstein is married with two sons.


It'd be funny if that was a smoke and mirrors reference and it was really this guy...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbornstein

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:53pm UTC)
The above book has been released. I remember Eagle from the 80s.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 10:55pm UTC)
The three images I just posted in three separate posts are all of American Mythology comics that are in stock at mycomicshop.com.
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See my update to that post.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:02pm UTC)
These books look interesting to me.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:04pm UTC)
Since JC Vaughn and Shooter worked on the same book, Mighty Sampson, at Dark Horse, and both are writing for American Mythology, I wonder if perhaps Vaughn talked Shooter into doing this. Just speculation.
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See my update to that post.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:06pm UTC)
 
Strange transition for the publisher...
That's a problem with the world today. I should not have instant access to his other career info.

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Dr. Michael Bornstein opened his private practice in Fort Bend County in 1993. He established roots in the community and his private practice grew into the Pediatric Center in 2000.
Dr. Bornstein received a Bachelor of Arts degree with Cum Laude honors from Harvard University. He completed Boston University School of Medicine training in May of 1990. After residency, and internship at the University of California, Irvine he received his certification from the National Board of Medical Examiners, Neonatal and Pediatric Advanced Life Support, and the American Board of Pediatrics. He has hospital affiliations at Oak Bend Medical Center, Texas Children's, Methodist Sugar Land and Memorial Southwest. Dr. Bornstein is affiliated with many medical organizations and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Dr. Bornstein is married with two sons.


It'd be funny if that was a smoke and mirrors reference and it was really this guy...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbornstein

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Sure seems strange. I like the looks of his first few books though.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:07pm UTC)
This is bizarre. I found an updated creator listing.
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Jonathan Swinney is a comic book letterer from Louisville, KY. Jonathan’s past credits include Philly from Evolution Studios, Playing God from Valiant Entertainment, and Wilder from Monsterverse. He is best known as the letterer on "Man of God" from Pinwheel Press.

Jonathan is currently a production lead on Pink Panther and Letterer on Stargate.


I'm shutting up. I know more about this guy. Remember him from the VCS site?

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:12pm UTC)
My memory sucks on the old formers but I remember the playing god thing being a forum project.

The vcs site like darkkey went off. Bleached from the net?
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:15pm UTC)
 
I've never heard of him. Is there a thread on the board that discusses that site? Forgive my ignorance.


He's not discussed here. The VCS site is gone.

Remember the U2K project? This was the guy assuring Ryan that there was no problem with VEI if they went ahead and finished U2K.
I know a little more about him due to conversations with Ryan. I'm not saying more.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:18pm UTC)
Oh. I just posted something about that project in a different thread on the board wondering whatever happened with that project. Lol. Maybe I should let sleeping dogs lie. {Grin} If it's appropriate to delete that post I made on the subject feel free to. I'm not that interested.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:22pm UTC)
This thread is sure getting lots of posts rapidly. Almost like having a real time conversation. Didn't you have some technology you added to the original board allowing real time conversation, Defiant1? I remember you adding some cool features to that board, or at least experimenting with some.
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Oh. I just posted something about that project in a different thread on the board wondering whatever happened with that project. Lol. Maybe I should let sleeping dogs lie. {Grin} If it's appropriate to delete that post I made on the subject feel free to. I'm not that interested.


I haven't read it, but I'm probably going to say leave it. If someone told me something about your personal life, it's very unlikely I'd repeat it online. Remember when Vaultkeeper posted personal info about ZWH/BBMN? I deleted it. I respect people's privacy when it hasn't been volunteered online or has no clear bearing on the online community.

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This thread is sure getting lots of posts rapidly. Almost like having a real time conversation. Didn't you have some technology you added to the original board allowing real time conversation, Defiant1? I remember you adding some cool features to that board, or at least experimenting with some.

There was a chat site that allowed low impact chat sessions and all you had to do was create a username (or not) and start posting in real time. I had it embedded as an iframe within this board. A site within a site.
I'm not sure if such services still exist, but they were easier to run that a chat site where you have to log in.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:41pm UTC)
You also added something else. I remember it vocally said the words ''Brother J and Star Brand post here.'' Maybe said something about Gowaltrip too, and maybe had some graphics also.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:45pm UTC)
I'm kind of stoked to see Shooter with some new comic work coming out.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:49pm UTC)
 
You also added something else. I remember it vocally said the words ''Brother J and Star Brand post here.'' Maybe said something about Gowaltrip too, and maybe had some graphics also.


Not that I know of. No one ever used it other than to maybe test post a line or two. I tried setting up a chat session that was scheduled. Nothing came out as a result. It was just a neat experiment.

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Yes. It was cool.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Nov 16 at 11:57pm UTC)
Unless Jim is an editor and primary creator, I have no confidence that this will ever manifest into anything that I'd get really excited about. I'll look into ordering this.

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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 12:04am UTC)
Maybe at least he'll write an interesting story. I'm wondering if he's just going to have work in the first issue or beyond.
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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 12:42am UTC)
I'm not real confident that this will manifest into much.

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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 12:47am UTC)
You're probably right, unless it means he's back into actively writing comics again.
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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 12:58am UTC)
He's better as plotting, orchestrating, and editing. The word by word dialogue on the written page has less to do with why appreciate his works.

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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 1:04am UTC)
Comics like Star Seed would not have been close to as good as it was of someone else had written it off his plot, in my opinion. Still, I agree that his talent is best used doing things like launching and overseeing universes.
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Comics like Star Seed would not have been close to as good as it was of someone else had written it off his plot, in my opinion. Still, I agree that his talent is best used doing things like launching and overseeing universes.



Bad example. The entire run was a collaboration except the last couple of issues. Would i rather have one really good series written by Jim, or 8 very good interlocking series with an added dynamic that everything mattered and had an impact outside of one series?
I would rather have 8 good series than one good series. The thing I liked most about Marvel was the 3-D dynamic that everything obtains through the crossovers and different perspectives. Jim brought that to Defiant, Broadway and any universe he built.

Writing Credits
Powers that Be #1
Jim Shooter, Janet Jackson, Joseph A James, Pauline Weiss

Powers that Be #2
Jim Shooter, Janet Jackson, Joseph A James, Pauline Weiss

Powers that Be #3
Jim Shooter, Janet Jackson, Joseph A James, Pauline Weiss

Powers that Be #4
Jim Shooter, Janet Jackson, Joseph A James, Pauline Weiss

Powers that Be #5
Jim Shooter, Janet Jackson, Joseph A James, Pauline Weiss

Powers that Be #6
Tony Bedard (Story & Plot), Jim Shooter (Plot), Janet Jackson(Plot), Joseph A. James(Plot), Pauline Weiss(Plot)

Star Seed #7
Jim Shooter (Story & Plot), Tony Bedard (Story & Plot), Janet Jackson (Plot), Joseph A. James (Plot), Pauline Weiss (Plot)

Star Seed #8
Jim Shooter

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Jim Shooter

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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 3:27pm UTC)
Yeah. I must've forgotten that.
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Re: American Mythology (27th Nov 16 at 3:34pm UTC)
I bet this will be that company's biggest seller for the Shooter name alone. At least triple their sales. I see some of their titles (3 Stooges/PinkPanther) chart 3000-3900 copies in October's sales:

http://comichron.com/

In a way it's already cool since it a collaboration with Joe James again. Closest to a Defiant/Broadway creator reunion in years.

The last time Shooter's name was on a comic was Dark Horse's Turok #4 from 2011.

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Thanks for the info!
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I bet this will be that company's biggest seller for the Shooter name alone. At least triple their sales. I see some of their titles (3 Stooges/PinkPanther) chart 3000-3900 copies in October's sales:

http://comichron.com/

In a way it's already cool since it a collaboration with Joe James again. Closest to a Defiant/Broadway creator reunion in years.

The last time Shooter's name was on a comic was Dark Horse's Turok #4 from 2011.

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I would not overestimate it's sales.
Many shops don't branch out into support for indy books.
They are content selling Marvel & DC.
Many shops & customers don't sift through Previews trying to find obscure things like this.
In addition, Jim's name has fallen out of relevance with modern comic buyers because his hiatus from writing has been so long.
Couple that with the lingering ignorant false bias against him and that really hurts his name as a marketing angle to sell this.
Jim needs to rebuild his audience.

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Re: American Mythology (28th Nov 16 at 12:57am UTC)
www.americanmythology.net
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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 2:30am UTC)
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I want to scream at how stupid comic publishers are!
Visited their Twitter page...

https://twitter.com/AmericanMytho

The last post is a retweet of a post from a Edgar Rice Boroughs fan on Nov. 26th:
"THE LAND THAT TIME FORGOT #3, due November 30..."

Most of their recent posts are retweets promoting books that are about to ship to stores.
This is asinine marketing. That's like putting an ad out to sell Christmas lights on Dec. 23rd. If you are waiting that late to promote a comic, most customer have already pre-ordered and allocated their shopping funds for the week. If their goal is to sell direct to customers, I guess that's fine. They publish some random number of comics... a guess.. and ship when the comics are published. That's a huge risk for loss unless they are using a costly print on Demand model.
If however they want their comic in stores, they should be promoting their books 2 or 3 months in advance so that the comic shops order the comic in time and have it on the shelf the day it is released. Overall order quantities are based upon what the comic shop thinks they can sell months in advance when they are mulling through the catalog. If they are waiting until release date to promote their comics, they've already thrown sales away. The customer that is going to make or break the success of a comic is the retailer that orders in advance. That is who they need to get on board first to order the comics. Once a comic shop is financially invested in their purchase of a product, the publisher has dozens or hundreds of retailers who are financially dependent on promoting their comics for them.

I'm already annoyed by the lack of marketing for the product which needs advertising NOW.
This is like a groom buying his tux the day of the wedding.
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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 2:38pm UTC)
I'm starting to think maybe Shooter contributed the story as a favor to JC Vaughn and nothing much else. I see this title was sold before and this anthology is another new number one issue for vaughn. I can't tell if this company has links to classic media by their titles. I still remember when DarkHorse (2009-2010) was saying how the GoldKey Shooter stories would first start out in their DarkHorsePresent's 80-page monthly books and then spin out into their own books. Leaving fans to guess left and right what was going on with that universe and when and if a late title would ship. Of course they ended up being so awesome in marketing that line. Smiley

With the Shooter name alone, they should be proud to show him off and start the press release bragging yesterday. Even if it turns out to be only a short story. I'm keeping expectations low on this one but i'll buy it even the cheesy blank variant.

Maybe this publisher is so small that they won't bother with the marketing. Kind of another reason why i've never heard of them before all this time. I noticed them only by that link from bleedingcool.



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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 5:24pm UTC)
Those are some relatively impressive licensed books they already have.
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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 5:33pm UTC)
It almost assuredly can't be a coincidence that Shooter and Vaughn are working on the same book for this company. One probably tipped the other off about the publisher. Could Shooter have tipped off Vaughn and Joe James too about this publisher? Maybe not probable but certainly possible.
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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 5:43pm UTC)
That would be awesome if this company brings back DEFIANT. I know, I know... highly unlikely.
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I'm starting to think maybe Shooter contributed the story as a favor to JC Vaughn and nothing much else. I see this title was sold before and this anthology is another new number one issue for vaughn. I can't tell if this company has links to classic media by their titles. I still remember when DarkHorse (2009-2010) was saying how the GoldKey Shooter stories would first start out in their DarkHorsePresent's 80-page monthly books and then spin out into their own books. Leaving fans to guess left and right what was going on with that universe and when and if a late title would ship. Of course they ended up being so awesome in marketing that line. Smiley

With the Shooter name alone, they should be proud to show him off and start the press release bragging yesterday. Even if it turns out to be only a short story. I'm keeping expectations low on this one but i'll buy it even the cheesy blank variant.

Maybe this publisher is so small that they won't bother with the marketing. Kind of another reason why i've never heard of them before all this time. I noticed them only by that link from bleedingcool.





That's more along the lines of what I was thinking. I really don't believe most small publishers can afford what Jim needs to make. Marketing budget is the last thing that a small publisher needs to cut. Look at all of the over-the-top marketing done by Valiant and even their titles are struggling. I'm not even saying spend a lot of money. How difficult is it to post on Twitter with current solicitations. How difficult is it to keep pre-order books up to date in your store? If a book is solicited now, it needs to be promoted NOW, not 2 or 3 months later.

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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 7:46pm UTC)
 
Those are some relatively impressive licensed books they already have.


Yeah, but sales are low and licensing cost money. it cuts into profits. Just about every company that has relied upon licensing eventually went out of business. When Mike Richardson's health start going due to old age, I expect Dark Horse to fall apart. He won't have many if any properties to license out for income. Doesn't it make more sense to actually own something that increases in value the more it gets public exposure?

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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 7:52pm UTC)
 
It almost assuredly can't be a coincidence that Shooter and Vaughn are working on the same book for this company. One probably tipped the other off about the publisher. Could Shooter have tipped off Vaughn and Joe James too about this publisher? Maybe not probable but certainly possible.


Well, J.C. Vaughn has direct connection to just about all of the publishers. His ties to the price guide and his Scoop articles makes him a good asset for making connections. I can see him being in the market to have someone publish his comics. I'm sure he called up Jim and told him there was a small publisher trying to break in.

The most encouraging thing about this is Joe James' participation. Joe does storyboards for commercials which pays more and I think he was always too busy to do a comic. Maybe Jim and Joe are both trying to diversify and keep business contacts available.

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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 8:05pm UTC)
 
That would be awesome if this company brings back DEFIANT. I know, I know... highly unlikely.


It would be a good pitch, but I've just got a wait and see attitude. I could see Dark Dominion being a solid title in which to test the waters. I mean seriously! It was co-created by the creator of Spider-man. What better marketing angle could you have? Heck... introduce Zaza the Mystic and Nature Boy and push a Jerry Siegel angle too! Instant clout.

I'm not going to divert a lot of money into $4 comics . If they keep up with 3 covers for every issue, they've lost me. Simple as that. Walking Dead didn't need all of the variants and it's one of the few modern successes. If the quality of the content is high enough, the book will sell without gimmicks.

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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 8:54pm UTC)
It's going to be interesting to see if Shooter has a story in the next issue of the title he's got one in issue 1 of.
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Re: American Mythology (29th Nov 16 at 10:15pm UTC)
Yeah. It may be a test to see how well the comic sells.

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Re: American Mythology (30th Nov 16 at 12:59am UTC)
MidtownComics has the pre-order listed:


http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=BEDTIME+STORIES+FOR+IMPRE_1597884

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(W) Jim Shooter & Various (A) James Nelms, Joe James (CA) Blank Sketch Cover

Jim Shooter at American Mythology? You bet! The legendary comics writer joins creator-writer J.C. Vaughn (Zombie-Proof, Vampire, PA), newcomer writer-artist James Nelms, and cover artist Mark Wheatley (Breathtaker, Frankenstein Mobster) for a new take on the classic horror anthology, Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children. American Mythology's Year of Horror begins right here!

Item #: 1597884 • Diamond code: DEC161217 • UPC: 85609100624300131

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James Nelms doesn't sound familiar. Now I wonder if Joe James is just on the variant cover.

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Re: American Mythology (30th Nov 16 at 1:08am UTC)
I wonder if James drew Shooter's story.
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Re: American Mythology (30th Nov 16 at 1:19am UTC)
Most likely, this is the James Nelms...

http://www.jdnelms.com/resume/

The one cover looks like his work.

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Re: American Mythology (30th Nov 16 at 1:33am UTC)
Cool.
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Re: American Mythology (30th Nov 16 at 4:01am UTC)
 
MidtownComics has the pre-order listed:


http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=BEDTIME+STORIES+FOR+IMPRE_1597884

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(W) Jim Shooter & Various (A) James Nelms, Joe James (CA) Blank Sketch Cover

Jim Shooter at American Mythology? You bet! The legendary comics writer joins creator-writer J.C. Vaughn (Zombie-Proof, Vampire, PA), newcomer writer-artist James Nelms, and cover artist Mark Wheatley (Breathtaker, Frankenstein Mobster) for a new take on the classic horror anthology, Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children. American Mythology's Year of Horror begins right here!

Item #: 1597884 • Diamond code: DEC161217 • UPC: 85609100624300131

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James Nelms doesn't sound familiar. Now I wonder if Joe James is just on the variant cover.




I see that they have two Moonstone issues from 2010 shown in the same listing. I'd be pissed if I ordered the two books without Shooter's writing in it.

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Re: American Mythology (30th Nov 16 at 4:04am UTC)
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Re: American Mythology (1st Dec 16 at 3:58pm UTC)
Anyone know when the next solicitations for new comics come out? Looking forward to seeing if Shooter is writing another story in issue 2 of Bedtime Stories...
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Re: American Mythology (1st Dec 16 at 9:34pm UTC)
I can't help. I've only been into a comic shop maybe twice in the past 8 months. As a general rule, I couldn't care less what comes out anymore.

I was thinking about asking a comic shop to order me 10 copies of #1 ... 3 blank, 4 home sweet home, and 3 copies of You axed for it. "3" used to be the minimum of any indy comic I ordered because the odds were that if I ordered one copy it'd arrive damaged. The more I think about it though, I don't want 10 copies. Now I'm thinking about dropping the number down, but I'm not sure how much. I'm mulling over 2 each. I may just go back to 1 copy. I only work 8 more days this year. I save all of my paid time off for November & December. I was off 10 days in a row for Thanksgiving. I'll have 2-1/2 weeks off at Christmas. Smiley
With all of this time off, I should have time to stop into a comic shop. The emphasis in that sentence is on the word "should".

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Re: American Mythology (1st Dec 16 at 11:38pm UTC)
I adhere to that same general rule. That'll be nice to have that much time off. I'll probably try to score a copy somewhere. Probably over the Internet. I don't buy new books anymore for the most part and don't even have a strategy yet for picking one of these up.
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Re: American Mythology (2nd Dec 16 at 12:11am UTC)
10 copies sounds like a good idea since this is a low print unknown title. The last time I ordered more than one copy of a Shooter book were with the launch issues of his DarkHorse run. {Unsure}

I've ordered from midtown before and i'm happy with their books but I think I remember being annoyed with their pre-ordering. The comics arrived but I would get them a number of weeks after their release date. I'd want the books in real time without waiting more than a couple days. Smiley

If they start pre-listing the books on the american mythology online shop I might order a set through there.



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I have no interest in buying online. Whether I get this at all will depend upon me being motivated enough to visit a comic book shop. The simple truth is that I'm happy not buying new comics every week. It's nice having a surplus of money in the bank when extra unexpected bills get dropped into my budget.

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For some reason I have my doubts a shop would have this book in stock of I hit one. Is there a release date?
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The Previews link I posted above says "In Shops: Feb 22, 2017"
You should be able to walk into a comic shop now and tell them you want to pre-order the book from the Dec. Previews. They should be able to order it. if I do this soon, then I may ask if I can pay in advance because I don't want any bills two months later and it would help them out anyway.

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Re: American Mythology (2nd Dec 16 at 4:07pm UTC)
Thanks.
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Re: American Mythology (2nd Dec 16 at 11:32pm UTC)
I found $300 that I'd stashed for later that I'd forgotten about. I like finding money that I've hidden from myself. Maybe I will get 10 LOL!

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 12:08am UTC)
Awesome! I doubt I'll get any. I just don't go to comic shops anymore and shipping is prohibitive.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 5:31pm UTC)
I've decided I'm going to pick one of these up, one way or another.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 5:53pm UTC)
I'm going to try and swing by a comic shop today, but I'm still mulling over the quantity. It REALLY annoys me that they have three covers and one is blank. I can't stand sketch covers. It's a cheap/lazy way to do a variant.

I've got some doctor bills coming up. I'm on steroids & antibiotics. They are really wearing me down.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 6:19pm UTC)
I'm just going to order some online. My shop makes it seem like a they are bothered when I ask to pre-order something that's just one title and it's harder when the owner's not there. And it's worse when I have to deal with their moody cashiers who don't know anything.

I'm annoyed by the blank cover. Do you think the company is being confident in the series by releasing a blank cover? The only main draw in this is Jim Shooter. It's an unknown anthology series. 2 covers would have been fine. "Blank" is just stoopid. A Neon Green blank Plasm cover would be more fun for me.





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Shooter doesn't just write for anybody. It's going to be interesting to see Shooter's involvement with this publisher. I don't recall him ever writing for a smaller publisher as a one-time thing.
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I'm just going to order some online. My shop makes it seem like a they are bothered when I ask to pre-order something that's just one title and it's harder when the owner's not there. And it's worse when I have to deal with their moody cashiers who don't know anything.

I'm annoyed by the blank cover. Do you think the company is being confident in the series by releasing a blank cover? The only main draw in this is Jim Shooter. It's an unknown anthology series. 2 covers would have been fine. "Blank" is just stoopid. A Neon Green blank Plasm cover would be more fun for me.


Some comic shops know nothing about indy comics beyond the flavor of the month. When I did subscribe, the comic shop owners liked me buying indy comics because it gave them a heads up on what was going on in the indy world.

If they get one moron like me to buy an extra copy because it's "different", then the blank covers pay off. They can also get one of their artists to draw sketches on the blank covers and sell them for a premium through their store. Blank covers are a way to publish an extra variant without paying for a page of art. It's a cheap & lazy way to have an extra variant, extra sales, with MINIMAL expense. The only thing stupid about it is that fans are tired of having to buy variants to have a complete set of a series. They risk losing the most loyal consumer which is the completists who buy a series whether the comic is good or not. It's smarter to let the content sell the book and create consumer loyalty in that manner.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 7:47pm UTC)
 
Shooter doesn't just write for anybody. It's going to be interesting to see Shooter's involvement with this publisher. I don't recall him ever writing for a smaller publisher as a one-time thing.


According to Shooter, publishers know how to contact him and his phone never rings.

He wrote a story for Realm Press in this comic.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 9:17pm UTC)
Wow! Looks like that book was published by Realm Press in 1999.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 9:43pm UTC)
It's done. I ordered 3 copies of each. I prepaid. It was $38.07. If I'd bought from the owner, she probably would have given me a discount. I bought from the college age flunky that is squandering his future by working in a comic shop. I wasn't worried about losing a discount. I want to support the first book of this return at the very least. I'm optimistic that he's writing something other than a Gold Key hero.

It would really be clever to write a horror story related to Dark Dominion on the down low and then spin off something later. I doubt they'd do that, but they need to creep into a full blown universe and have a backstory that no one knew was related.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 9:53pm UTC)
 
Wow! Looks like that book was published by Realm Press in 1999.


It was his first published comic writing after Unity 2K.

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=34452862280&snumber=1

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 9:57pm UTC)
Awesome. Thanks.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Dec 16 at 10:56pm UTC)
Makes me want to read that Galactica issue again. I was going to say the blue variant cover has a DarkDominion look to it with the glowing apparition outside that house. *Glimmer lives*

Here's a small blurb mention for the title on Scoop:

http://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1023?articleID=187221


Maybe Shooter will plant some interesting seeds in this new issue. Maybe this could be his Walking Dead #1.

Smarter to reserve and pre-order now in case stores get allocated on the issue in Feb.

I'm going to do it online since my 4 shops have 4 equally annoying store personalities when I try to special order through them.

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Re: American Mythology (4th Dec 16 at 12:15am UTC)
 
Makes me want to read that Galactica issue again. I was going to say the blue variant cover has a DarkDominion look to it with the glowing apparition outside that house. *Glimmer lives*

Here's a small blurb mention for the title on Scoop:

http://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1023?articleID=187221


Maybe Shooter will plant some interesting seeds in this new issue. Maybe this could be his Walking Dead #1.

Smarter to reserve and pre-order now in case stores get allocated on the issue in Feb.

I'm going to do it online since my 4 shops have 4 equally annoying store personalities when I try to special order through them.



As I said, the Joe James involvement was the oddest and most encouraging portion for me.

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The scoop article is better than nothing, but it's still weak.
Jim's goal is to write good stories, but I think he's disconnected to seeing that his writing can play on the collector psychology to include marketing tools as part of the writing. I'm sure he sees some elements, but the scope is much larger than what he typically does.

Since shops order based upon pre-orders, I think finding this as a walk-in customer would be tough. That has nothing to do with allocations if stores don't order it. Orders don't go in until the end of the month per the comic shop employee.

Comic shops are a mess. They take on the personality of the people running them. At one that closed, it had been run by a woman that liked Star Trek. If you wanted blueprints for the Enterprise, they had them. If you wanted Klingon patches, they had them. She eventually got married and moved out of the area. The guy who took over liked Batman. He just turned his back on the Star Trek fans and started pampering all the Batman fans. The whole personality of the shop changed.

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Re: American Mythology (6th Dec 16 at 2:58pm UTC)
Chuck from Mile High plugged the new comic in this MileHigh newsletter:

http://www.milehighcomics.com/newsletter/120216email.html

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My final item for today is a plug for my good friend, Jim Shooter's, first new story in several years. After a decade spent as Editor-In-Chief at Marvel Comics (1978-1987), Jim founded Valiant, Defiant, and Broadway comics, and wrote stories for every publisher in the comics world. Jim has since been living a quiet life in upstate New York, but the siren call of his many friends in the comics world has finally coaxed him back into writing new comics stories. BEDTIME STORIES FOR IMPRESSIONABLE CHILDREN #1 is in the current DIAMOND PREVIEWS (December) magazine, and can be ordered through Mario in our subscription department, or via your local retail comics shop. It will ship on February 22nd. Here is a synopsis of Jim Shooter's first issue:
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Chuck doesn't hint at any sort of major potential this issue might have. If it leads to DEFIANT returning I'm sure Shooter would have told him. Same with of Shooter was to play a major role with this publisher.
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Re: American Mythology (7th Dec 16 at 12:12am UTC)
The real question is... how many will Chuck order? Chuck helped bankroll Valiant & DEFIANT in the beginning with big orders. If I was to order online, it would've been through Mile High.

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If this is just a one time thing of Shooter writing a story for this publisher, I don't know if Chuck would order extras. If it's a harbinger of Shooter writing more for them with possibilities of something important coming from it, I'd expect Shooter or someone to tip Chuck off to that and him to possibly respond with a strong order.
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If this is just a one time thing of Shooter writing a story for this publisher, I don't know if Chuck would order extras. If it's a harbinger of Shooter writing more for them with possibilities of something important coming from it, I'd expect Shooter or someone to tip Chuck off to that and him to possibly respond with a strong order.



I agree, but if there was evidence that he bought a large amount, that might mean it was a start to something bigger.

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I wonder how pre-ordering works with Mile High. I've never tried it before. I'd like to order from there just to up the support and Chuck looks like he would be more vocal about promoting anything Shooter. And they ship nicer condition books.

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There's no doubt Chuck has Jim's back as much as possible.
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If this is just a one time thing of Shooter writing a story for this publisher, I don't know if Chuck would order extras. If it's a harbinger of Shooter writing more for them with possibilities of something important coming from it, I'd expect Shooter or someone to tip Chuck off to that and him to possibly respond with a strong order.



I agree, but if there was evidence that he bought a large amount, that might mean it was a start to something bigger.

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I wonder how pre-ordering works with Mile High. I've never tried it before. I'd like to order from there just to up the support and Chuck looks like he would be more vocal about promoting anything Shooter. And they ship nicer condition books.



I don't really know.
Glad I paid in advance.
I have a disconcerting health issue and have to see a doctor for the third time in 2 weeks.

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I hope that health issue clears up or is manageable.
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Well... the doctor must not see any urgency since they haven't called me back. As I get older, I learn of new medical conditions that I had never heard of before. Last year I had salivary stones blocking saliva from getting to my mouth. The treatment? .... suck a lemon! Now I can tell people that my doctor told me to suck a lemon.

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Lol
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The power of lemon juice compels them. I heard lemons are good to lose weight when added to drinking water. Speeds up metabolism or something.

I hate both doctors and hospitals. I was at one last night to take a family member. When I came back I changed my clothes to wash away any superbugs floating in the emergency room. I can't wait for robotic medical kiosks to diagnose people properly over guessing doctors. That's probably about ten years away.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Dec 16 at 10:33pm UTC)
I like to watch Emily Chang do tech interviews on Bloomberg's channel. I saw an interview she had online about the "IoT" or "Internet of Things" at some tech show. There was a guy on the stage from Space X (they use our PLM software), a woman from Hitachi (we make some stuff for them), and a guy who works on hand held biomedical sensors. The last guy said they now have online sensors that you can hook to a cell phone that will give scans as good as a $300,000 imaging machine. Essentially, the stuff Dr. McCoy waved over people on Star Trek is becoming a reality. I think the Emory healthcare phone line was recording my conversation with the guy I talked to so the doctor could listen to what my situation is without spending time talking to me. I think that's why she didn't ask me to come to the office. Have some low paid receptionist ask all of the questions so that she can spend time on more patients. That's my theory. My lady doctor always says she loves me when I have an appointment. It's awkward. She hugs me, tugs my earlobes, and I think she's even kissed me on the cheek. My life is bizarre.

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Re: American Mythology (8th Dec 16 at 2:38pm UTC)
Emily Chang the anchor is cute. I first saw her in one of the Silicon Valley episodes. I can never find the bloomberg news channel.

Doctors are basically there to write prescriptions and read test results. One goes into an emergency room and gets a battery xrays, blood tests, ct scans and whatevers and then we're at the mercy of waiting on one doctor to read off a page to get out of there 9 hours later. And chasing down the overworked 12 hour shift nurses just to get checked out. Medical scanning robots would be awesome to do away with them. I was shocked when one doctor there was more interested in referring a specialist for cosmetic surgery when he saw a bump on my family member's leg instead a treating her ailment first. They are worse than lawyers too. They backtrack when they misdiagnose people.



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