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Re: American Mythology (8th Dec 16 at 3:59pm UTC)
Doctors are like car mechanics, only with the human body.
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Re: American Mythology (8th Dec 16 at 8:53pm UTC)
 
Emily Chang the anchor is cute. I first saw her in one of the Silicon Valley episodes. I can never find the bloomberg news channel.

Doctors are basically there to write prescriptions and read test results. One goes into an emergency room and gets a battery xrays, blood tests, ct scans and whatevers and then we're at the mercy of waiting on one doctor to read off a page to get out of there 9 hours later. And chasing down the overworked 12 hour shift nurses just to get checked out. Medical scanning robots would be awesome to do away with them. I was shocked when one doctor there was more interested in referring a specialist for cosmetic surgery when he saw a bump on my family member's leg instead a treating her ailment first. They are worse than lawyers too. They backtrack when they misdiagnose people.


Cute is the exact word for Emily Chang. Like a smart, attractive girl next door. Horrible picture on her Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/emilychangtv

Try channel 222 on U-Verse.

My doctor is a Russian lady. Attractive for an older lady. She's also very good. She has a good memory about my weird medical issues. My problem is that she's so busy that I sometimes have to see a nurse practitioner which defeats my reason for going to her office. She'll step in the office after the nurse has given me an antibiotic that doesn't work on me. She'll switch the prescription. She also only focuses on one issue. If I go in with a sore throat, she'll focus on that and forget my foot was aching too. I'll forget because she comes in during the last 2 minutes of the visit. At least I don't have to deal with a man asking to do a prostate check. There was one chubby gay acting male intern telling me I needed a prostate check. I said "nope". I refused. 20 year old cute female intern... I guess... whatever.

A year or so ago I had a nurse going over all the prep criteria for a colonoscopy. I said "I prefer to call it voluntary rape." It's not something I'd ever allow, but I'm agreeing to have it dome as preventative healthcare. The nurse was grinning as she said "We prefer not to call it that.". I said "....but that's what it is." I said it repeatedly and she could not hold a straight face at all whenever I said it. To make things worse, I had the colonoscopy and the doctor walks in to go over the findings after I woke up. He proceeded to compliment my colon. He kept saying with emphasis... "It looked REALLY good." Maybe that was his way of getting me back for messing with his nurse.

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Re: American Mythology (8th Dec 16 at 9:06pm UTC)
 
Doctors are like car mechanics, only with the human body.


A doctor is more like an artist. A car has a manual with set parts. They are either right or they aren't. Humans have all sorts of unknown issues that have unknowm complications.

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Re: American Mythology (10th Dec 16 at 11:25pm UTC)
I'll never understand why medical people get so anxious to give people the prostate check. What's the rush? Where's the fire? Some staff are sickos. Smiley

They should make more horror movies about hospitals. The setting is perfect for it. Smiley

Found the bloomberg channel. I guess Emily Chang is off on Fridays. I like her better than Olivia Munn. Smiley

This website has the upcoming comics for pre-order too:

https://www.dcbservice.com/products/other/6/american-mythology-productions/american-mythology-productions/1

Weird that they priced the blank cover the highest.
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Re: American Mythology (11th Dec 16 at 1:12am UTC)
 
I'll never understand why medical people get so anxious to give people the prostate check. What's the rush? Where's the fire? Some staff are sickos. Smiley

They should make more horror movies about hospitals. The setting is perfect for it. Smiley

Found the bloomberg channel. I guess Emily Chang is off on Fridays. I like her better than Olivia Munn. Smiley

This website has the upcoming comics for pre-order too:

https://www.dcbservice.com/products/other/6/american-mythology-productions/american-mythology-productions/1

Weird that they priced the blank cover the highest.


Nothing makes sense about 45% off. They have to sell unbelievable volume to make money. I can only assume that they sell overpriced coffee or launder drug money. LOL!
The 45% markup is necessary to cover business expenses and overhead!

They have a very mixed set of reviews.
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Bill Halliar
a month ago
Whoo boy! What a selection of graphic novels! Amazing! I'd be here on a weekly basis if I lived closer. Great selection of toys and a large gaming area.
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Joel Sinn
a month ago
Prices are decent, but most employees sit at the desk and browse their facebook, read comics, or talk on their cell phones instaed of answering the phone or helping customers. ...More
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andrew horton
2 months ago
DCBS is the best comic book shop in Fort Wayne. They offer great on the wall deals (10% off of new comics), plus if you preorder you receive 35-40% off of cover price. I can get a DC comic brand new for $1.79, I get around 5 books a week and after tax and bag and boards I pay around $11. If you want to be able to buy in bulk without breaking your bank DCBS is the store to go to. The staff has always been kind to me. In fact i am now friends with many former/current employees who worked the front desk. Their sister site In Stock Trades also has spectacular deals on Trades and Omnibus' often upwards of 40-50% off. To sum it up, if you want the most bang for your buck and get quality service with the chance of making a lasting friend then DCBS is the place for you.
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William Richardson
4 months ago
I have been ripped off. money was taken from my Bank Account, but I not received any of my order . this is from a month ago. look on the site and my account , it said some were cancel , but they did not give me my money back. sent several messages to customer service with no response . than the number I called says it is not in service. I FEEL I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFFED. ALL I CAN DO NOW IS TURN IT OVER TO THE POLICE.
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We would love to resolve this issue with you! Please e-mail customer.service@dcbservice.com and we would be happy to help with this issue as quickly as possible. Thanks!
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Justin Brammer
2 months ago
Great local shop with a good assortment of comics books and statues and toys. Friendly staff.
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B Skinner
5 months ago
I've used DCBS preorder service for years now and they've always been very good to me
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Billy Todd
7 months ago
Just placed my 1st order with DCBS, crossing my fingers it goes smooth if so this will definately be my new go to spot for my monthly books
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Mark Martin
8 months ago
Was doing business for years on line. They screwed up an order and when I asked for help they refused to fix it. Then they refused to do business with me again. Their loss.
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Sara Randall
9 months ago
Definitely my favorite comic book shop in Fort Wayne. The staff is helpful and friendly and they always have what I'm looking for.
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Gary Hibbits
10 months ago
I use them for online preorders. Ship straight to my door every month. Really cheap. Have everything I've ever needed. Great service whenever a problem has come up. I've recommended a few friends to use them.
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Rabina Helton
a year ago
Went in there with my fiancee and we had to greet the staff. They were not helpful. I sat at the coffee counter for 30 minutes without anyone coming to assist me. They did not have much of a selection for marvel. They tried to tell my fiancee that marvel is only for large corporate store. It was a complete waste of time. If you want no help, no greeting, and no coffee and you hate marvel comics, you'll love this place.
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Hi Rabina! I apologize that you had such a negative experience in our store. Our entire staff is instructed to greet every customer that walks in, to be courteous, and to help customers in any way they can. It is unacceptable that you were left waiting for a coffee for 30 minutes with no assistance. We're always happy to accept feedback through Facebook messages or through an e-mail if you'd prefer. The customer service e-mail address is customer.service@dcbservice.com. Enjoy the rest of your week!
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Joel Risser
a year ago
I have been a monthly customer since July 2011. They take incredible care of me as a customer. They communicate very well, and have always resolved any problems that have come up, even ones that were my fault.
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Jim Bowers
a year ago
This is the best local comic shop I've ever been to. They are also the premier comic pre-order site. The best discounts and anytime I've had a problem they have fixed it in a quick manner.
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Erec A
2 years ago
Placed an order several days ago. Have no idea what status is. No number to speak to anyone. Emailed them and got no response. Yeah there cheap but no one wants the hassle. Shop somewhere else.
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Craig Moran
a month ago
Dope selection
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in the last week
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7 months ago
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Mike Wimmer
a year ago
Response from the owner a year ago
Please let us know if there's anything we can help you with by e-mailing us at customer.service@dcbservice.com, or by leaving us a Facebook message. We would be happy to address any issues you had with your experience in our store. Enjoy the rest of your week!
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It makes NO sense to price the blank cover more since they are priced the same in PREVIEWS..

Olivia Munn isn't fun anymore. She was already getting very serious when her modeling & acting career took off. She was appearing to be a work-a-holic then. Now she's just another aging pretty body.

Emily Chang just comes across as very knowledgeable and cute. She be interesting to talk to based upon all the business leaders she's talked to. She was the perfect choice for the Silicon Valley segment.

Who grows up thinking... I want to put cameras up people's butt while they are passes out? What is going through a person's mind when they decide to be a Gastroenterologist? Is it the same mindset that makes a teenage guy say, "I want to be a Gynecologist"? If so, that's VERY disturbing. More disturbing than ass cancer.

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American Mythology Order Info (12th Dec 16 at 3:08am UTC)
Jim Shooter has a much awaited return to comics in 2017.

Here is online order info for:

BEDTIME STORIES FOR IMPRESSIONABLE CHILDREN #1 (3 covers exist)

DCBS (Discount Pricing)
https://www.dcbservice.com/products/other/6/american-mythology-productions/american-mythology-productions/1

Here is the info if you want to order it directly from your local comic shop or another online retailer. Provide the PREVIEWS order codes for the cover you want:

PREVIEWS catalog Order # DEC161215
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https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161215 (Joe James cover)

PREVIEWS catalog Order # DEC161216
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https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161216 (Mark Wheatley cover)

PREVIEWS catalog Order # DEC161217
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https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161217 (Blank sketch cover)

The release date is Feb. 22 according to my local comic shop.

This thread is locked with a sticky as it is only provided as information for visitors!

Unlocking it and merging it into the other thread. (1/26/2017)

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Re: American Mythology (17th Dec 16 at 4:31am UTC)
I wonder if Bedtime Stories is monthly. If it is we should have the solicitation for issue 2 shortly.
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Re: American Mythology (17th Dec 16 at 5:17am UTC)
If it is, I do not plan on preordering subsequent issues.

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Re: American Mythology (20th Dec 16 at 7:54pm UTC)
I stopped by the comic shop to see if the owner was there. I prefer dealing with her. She wasn't. While I was there I shopped around. I wasn't finding anything I wanted, but I dipped off into a small room where they have of children's comics. I wanted to see if they had anything interesting. While in there, I saw they had one issue of Pink Panther #1, one issue of Pink Panther #2, and two issues of Pink Panther #3. I grabbed one copy each of #'s1-3. Then I realized the total cost and thought.... nah! I put back #2 & #3 and just bought #1. I wanted to see what kind of production standards they had and I only needed one comic to get a good sampling.

I got the comic home and went to open the cover. It felt liked I'd opened two or three pages at once. Nope, I had indeed opened just the cover. The cover stock was just very thick. My first thought was of crappy 90's indy comics that were more interested in making the cover nice rather than making the whole comic nice. I look at the indicia and see 2 original stories listed and 2 reprint stories listed. New consumers shouldn't have a problem with that since most of the original stories came out 40 years ago. I also thought it was a pretty smart way to keep production costs down as that means they are only paying for new art on half the book. Pink Panther is pretty much silent in the two original stories. They were all visual and just a little strange. Not bad, just strange. On the reprint stories, Pink Panther was quite vocal. I thumbed past those and didn't really read them. The comic ended with a full color cover of Inspector #1 followed by a B&W sample page. I would have liked to have seen an editorial page or some kind of text explaining who the company was and what they plan on doing going forward. There was no effective marketing or brand identification being built within the pages. It seemed like a real lost opportunity. The pages are extremely thin. I'll probably scan it later.

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Re: American Mythology (20th Dec 16 at 8:07pm UTC)
Nice review. Branding seems like a no brainer but these new companies don't seem to be interested in putting much effort into doing it or just can't pull it off.
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Re: American Mythology (20th Dec 16 at 8:12pm UTC)
Untrained people under-utilize marketing. Well trained people misuse marketing and waste money or just do ineffective over-kill. Branding is very important. Olympic luge team uniforms with your character on them is not.

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Re: American Mythology (21st Dec 16 at 4:19am UTC)
Okay... here is a scan of the issue I bought.

Pink Panther, The (Vol. 3) #4
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I'm rolling my eyes. The comic is clearly #1 on the cover, but the indicia reads it as Vol. 3 #4. Seriously!
A new company is already trying to confuse collectors? This is idiotic. I don't know if this is the third series from this publisher... maybe it is. Regardless, they don't need to list this as a Vol. 3 when they've only been around a couple of years at most. I wouldn't have a problem with this having a #1 on the cover and #4 inside if they had published a 3 issue mini-series. Between the variants and the idiotic numbering, I'm probably not going to keep supporting this company.

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Re: American Mythology (21st Dec 16 at 4:35am UTC)
That's a strange thing to do. Are they trying to get collectors of precious Pink Panther series to feel like they need to continue their collections of the old runs? Sheesh!
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Re: American Mythology (21st Dec 16 at 4:47am UTC)
It looks like that is what they are doing. I really don't think the people running the company have a clue as to what they are doing. This is definitely not the wisest course of action if they want to ESTABLISH THEIR OWN BRAND!!!! {Rolleyes}

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Re: American Mythology (21st Dec 16 at 4:56am UTC)
It appears that they had a 3 issue mini-series which they may consider to be Vol. 1.
There is a Free Comic Book Day issue which they may consider to be Vol. 2
It looks like they are continuing the numbering from the 3-issue series, but calling it Vol. 3.
That is completely moronic.

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Re: American Mythology (21st Dec 16 at 5:09am UTC)
I agree on all counts.
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Dec 16 at 10:10pm UTC)
Couldn't respond to the order info thread. Thanks for the head's up. I may check it out when it's released. Smiley
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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 3:23am UTC)
The other thread is only to promote the book and give lurkers the quick info they need to acquire a copy. After it comes out I'll probably merge it into this thread.

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 4:28pm UTC)
It appears that no trademarks have been registered by American Mythology Productions. There is no Trademark for Zombie Proof in relation to comics. Zombie Proof is registered for cell Phone protective covers. Clearly they've made no effort to protect their brand(s).

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 5:49pm UTC)
I think Zombie Proof was published previously. It's a JC Vaughn property.
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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 8:51pm UTC)
You are correct. That's why I said "they"... both the publisher and JC. You'd think he would want to protect it since it's a property that he's been pushing and selling for years. Maybe he doesn't care.

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 9:01pm UTC)
It's cost prohibitive for an individual who may be tight with money. The fact he's getting his stuff in print protects it to some extent. How many people can afford to trademark a character that they're lucky if they're turning a few thousand dollar profit on? For example, JC may not be making anything at all off Zombie Proof, or very little.
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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 11:05pm UTC)
I seriously doubt he's making any money. His copyright is protected without question. I mulled over what I would have done if I had gotten as far along as he had. One creator & self-publisher years ago said "Why are you worried about copyrights? Nobody wants to steal your ideas." I don't entirely agree with that. My goal would be to design something with branding and financial opportunities in mind. People were interested enough to rush me up to put together a package to present my ideas to a Hollywood producer. People came to me. I wasn't knocking on doors. I can see JC not going for a trademark. I feel that the publisher should be doing it with their logo to protect themselves against potential lawsuits or simply to stop someone like Dynamite from registering one and causing them problems. Once a publisher gets to the level of producing comics and selling through Diamond, I feel that they should be taking a full blown professional angle on everything they do.

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Dec 16 at 11:10pm UTC)
There are certainly a few warning signs with this publisher so far. Maybe they'll gain some momentum. I doubt Shooter has any major ageeement with them. I hope I'm wrong about that.
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There are certainly a few warning signs with this publisher so far. Maybe they'll gain some momentum. I doubt Shooter has any major ageeement with them. I hope I'm wrong about that.


Maybe Shooter has a side job as publishing consultant. JC saw something with this publisher that he trusted them to publish his creative properties. Diamond saw something with them to coax them into signing a contract to make Diamond their exclusive distributor. A publisher has to meet a certain order threshold to even sell through Diamond. Diamond may be nurturing this publisher to achieve higher sales. I sense something strange about this. Not just this, but other unrelated changes. The last Marvel movie I saw didn't start with comic pages flipping. It started with snippets from their movies. It was like Marvel didn't want to promote their comics anymore.

There is a bigger picture somewhere in the fog of all this.

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Re: American Mythology (24th Dec 16 at 3:26am UTC)
I wish one of these companies would give Shooter a chance to oversee another comic Universe. It would be smarter to go with Shooter's ideas than your own.
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I wish one of these companies would give Shooter a chance to oversee another comic Universe. It would be smarter to go with Shooter's ideas than your own.


Dark Horse would've been the company to make things happen. They were too scared to give him a real shot.

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Re: American Mythology (24th Dec 16 at 3:49am UTC)
I always think of Mark Alessi. As much money as he put into Crossgen he could have given the reigns to Shooter and really had something special. Instead he decided his being the chief supervisor of his Universe was smarter.
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Re: American Mythology (24th Dec 16 at 7:39am UTC)
He owed millions of dollars. I guess it's easy to look like a healthy company when you are spending someone else's money.

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Re: American Mythology (24th Dec 16 at 12:52pm UTC)
I think he was personally wealthy when he started Crossgen and a few years into it lost a ton of
money on something besides his publishing company. In the end he owed millions.
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I think he was personally wealthy when he started Crossgen and a few years into it lost a ton of
money on something besides his publishing company. In the end he owed millions.


I hadn't heard of him losing money outside of his publishing efforts.
He hired some artists as employees and provided insurance. Some of those artists didn't live up to the compensation they were receiving. He lost money on things like Walmart returns. To my knowledge, his massive publishing company just kept losing more and more money until finally he wasn't able to pay the publishers or the creators. Someone posted a radio interview with him. I need to listen to that. There might have been something else that killed his company.

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Re: American Mythology (24th Dec 16 at 3:02pm UTC)
The Mark Allesi interview was interesting and entertaining. Some disturbing bits to hear what Mark Waid did there. {Shocked}

http://www.thedollarbin.net/shows/2016/3/9/episode-355

I still have a long box of Crossgen books and bought them until it got too overwhelming and then I stopped. Some of their side licensed comics towards the end were cool.

Dark Horse would have been great for Shooter had they got him as EIC for an imprint. Or even to oversee their movie based comics. Annoying how they kept him just as a "head writer." Wouldn't it have been cheaper to pay him as an editor instead of writer on 4-5 comics? Smiley








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Re: American Mythology (24th Dec 16 at 8:05pm UTC)
Crossgen didn't publish comics that interest me. I'm going to listen to this interview again. I've already started. he mentions Don Hillsman which I've met. He shopped at a local comic shop near where I live.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 2:14am UTC)
Has issue 2 been solicited yet? What is the date for issue 1 to go live? (Relative to the title Shooter has a story in).
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 2:55am UTC)


February 22, 2017 is release date for #1.

Nothing shows Shooter in the credits for the following month. There is no second issue solicited.

https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog?pub=AMERICAN%20MYTHOLOGY%20PRODUCTIONS&cat=1

JC Vaughn has "MCCANDLESS AND COMPANY ONE SHOT" which may be a resolicitation because the order code is different (older) if you click on the cover to get more info.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 2:57am UTC)
Thanks. Should there be an issue 2 solicitation already if it's a monthly title? Maybe it's bi-monthly.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 3:23am UTC)
For a monthly book, it should be solicited now. For a bi-monthly comics, it'd be next month.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 3:54am UTC)
It's probably bi-monthly then... unless they're already having problems keeping a schedule on that book.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 6:11am UTC)
It could be a one shot.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Jan 17 at 5:12pm UTC)
I guess it could be a quarterly too.
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Re: American Mythology (4th Jan 17 at 9:34pm UTC)
This list looks like it was cut in half since last month:

http://www.americanmythology.net/creators

Trying to see any additions with Shooter's name. It's January and still no mention of his book out next month.
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Re: American Mythology (4th Jan 17 at 11:29pm UTC)
It looks about the same to me, but I see that Swinney's name is missing.
No books with Shooter's name are solicited for March. I've looked at the list and they've bumped the number of variants on some titles... or so it seems.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 3:31pm UTC)
It's just odd how their online shop now has their March books available for order yet none for Shooter's book in February.

They kind of have one of comic history's biggest stars writing a book for their company and they haven't even sent a single tweet/retwat...

What the hell are they waiting for....

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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 4:13pm UTC)
Another brilliant job of marketing by a comic publisher.
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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 4:57pm UTC)
If I tried to make this stuff up, I could never even imagine this level of ineptitude.

You have a product.
You have a Twitter account.
You have Facebook.
You have an online store.

Why in the hell would they not try to market and sell their own product?

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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 7:11pm UTC)
This reminds me of the way comic book stores were run in the 70s. The owners looked at themselves as comic book dealers with store fronts. They didn't realize it would actually be a good idea to run their stores like they were businesses. These comic publishers realize they're publishing comics, but it apparently doesn't dawn on them they are actually running businesses.
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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 7:34pm UTC)
 
This reminds me of the way comic book stores were run in the 70s. The owners looked at themselves as comic book dealers with store fronts. They didn't realize it would actually be a good idea to run their stores like they were businesses. These comic publishers realize they're publishing comics, but it apparently doesn't dawn on them they are actually running businesses.


Exactly.

The whole .net website is down now. It's a blank white screen. Their Twitter feed seems to think Hatchet is their only comic that should be promoted.

The .com is up with new text...


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AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY PRODUCTIONS IS A 21ST CENTURY MEDIA COMPANY THAT IDENTIFIES, DEVELOPS, MARKETS, AND SELLS ENTERTAINMENT CONTENT THROUGH COMIC BOOKS, GRAPHIC NOVELS, AND DIGITAL MEDIUMS TO THE MODERN CONSUMER.
AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY

CREATING 21ST CENTURY COMICS AND
ANIMATION FOR A NEW GENERATION


AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY IS THE PRODUCT OF OVER TWO DECADES OF HARD-EARNED EXPERIENCE IN MARKETING, DEVELOPMENT, PRINTING, DISTRIBUTING, AND CREATING BEST-SELLING EDITORIAL IN THE COMICS FIELD. BUILDING ON THE SUCCESS OF THOSE PLATFORMS, WE’VE DEVELOPED A BLUEPRINT FOR A CONTEMPORARY TITLE CATALGUE FOUNDED ON BOTH EXISTING AND ORIGINAL TITLE CONTENT.

WE’VE ESTABLISHED A VETERAN, AWARD WINNING TEAM OF ARTISTS, WRITERS, AND CREATIVE CONTRIBUTORS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RAPIDLY GROWING TITLE CATALOGUE THAT ENCOMPASSES POP CULTURE ICONS OF THE PAST SIX DECADES, CUTTING EDGE SCIENCE FICTION, HORROR CLASSICS, CONTEMPORARY WESTERNS, TOP SHELF CHILDREN’S ENTERTAINMENT, AND OUR OWN ORIGINAL CONTENT, TO BRING ONLY THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT TO OUR READERS. SOME OF AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY’S CONTRIBUTORS INCLUDE EISNER AWARD WINNING ARTIST MARK WHEATLEY, WHOSE WORK HAS APPEARED IN COMICS, TV, MUSIC, AND MOVIES; KEN HAESER, A GRADUATE OF THE JOE KUBERT SCHOOL OF CARTOON AND GRAPHIC ART, AND WHOSE ART HAS BEEN FEATURED IN A NUMBER OF MEDIA PROJECTS; J.C. VAUGHN, WRITER OF THE MIGHTY SAMSON, AND CREATOR OF THE HIT TITLES ZOMBIE-PROOF, VAMPIRE, PA, AND BEDTIME STORIES FOR IMPRESSIONABLE CHILDREN; ANDREW MAGNUM, VETERAN ARTIST WHO HAS WORKED WITH MOST OF THE TOP CONTEMPORARY COMIC BOOK PUBLISHERS; JAMES KUHORIC, AWARD WINNING WRITER OF ARMY OF DARKNESS, FREDDY VS JASON VS ASH AND THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN SERIES, JUST TO NAME A FEW. IT’S EASY TO SEE WHY WE’RE EXCITED!

AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY IS ALSO IN CURRENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE OF THE TOP COMIC PUBLISHERS IN THE INDUSTRY TO RELEASE OUR BLOSSOMING CATALOGUE OF TITLES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR PRESS, ADDING A WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT TO THE COMPANY.


A TOP SHELF CATALOGUE OF TITLES, BOTH EXISTING AND ORIGINAL, A POOL OF TALENTED AND VETERAN ARTISTS AND WRITERS TO BRING THEM TO LIFE, AND A BUDDING PARTNERSHIP TO PROPEL AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY TO THE TOP OF THE COMIC ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY AS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP EXPANDING PRINT AND DIGITAL MEDIA PROJECTS. IT’S AN EXCITING TIME HERE AT AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY. JOIN US AND GO ALONG FOR THE RIDE!



Care to make guesses who they are talking about when they say "WITH ONE OF THE TOP COMIC PUBLISHERS IN THE INDUSTRY"?

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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 8:45pm UTC)
It says JC Vaughn is the creator of the title Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children. There's the Shooter connection. He got Shooter to write at least one story for the title.
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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 9:31pm UTC)
Yeah, but I'm curious about the top comics publisher they are partnering with. Marvel? DC? Archie? or just <cough> Gemstone?

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Re: American Mythology (7th Jan 17 at 10:33pm UTC)
If that deal gets made it'll be interesting to see which publisher they're talking about.
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Re: American Mythology (8th Jan 17 at 4:09pm UTC)
 
Yeah, but I'm curious about the top comics publisher they are partnering with. Marvel? DC? Archie? or just <cough> Gemstone?

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I have a Gemstone Free Comic Book Day issue from last year. It was more like a price guide advertisement than comics...I see Vaughn's name in there...

IDW - maybe....they did buy Top Shelf last year...maybe American Mythology is another cheap get for them....
Dynamite - not sure about them....they have their digital library released on digital through Dark Horse's site...probably not...
Boom - small but maybe....probably not
Dark Horse - {Confused} ....they already dropped the ball with the last Shooter venture....they are more into video game books now...
Image - I don't think they would care...


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Re: American Mythology (8th Jan 17 at 4:21pm UTC)
I did not know Chris Staros sold Top Shelf. He was a local guy who sold his golden age collection to start a publishing company.

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Re: American Mythology (22nd Jan 17 at 9:07pm UTC)
Grabbed online. Here is a page from the story "Flash of Inspiration" from Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children #1. The story was written & illustrated by James Nelms. I'm going to assume that the comic is B&W, not color. That will help it be profitable. if so.

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Re: American Mythology (22nd Jan 17 at 10:56pm UTC)
When is the release date again?
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Jan 17 at 11:02pm UTC)
 
When is the release date again?


Feb 22nd

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Jan 17 at 8:57pm UTC)
Thanks. I'm sure that was posted previously in this thread, but it's a lot of effort for me to find something like that on my phone.
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Re: American Mythology (23rd Jan 17 at 10:22pm UTC)
 
Thanks. I'm sure that was posted previously in this thread, but it's a lot of effort for me to find something like that on my phone.


Updated the order info thread with the release date. That'll be easier to find.

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Jan 17 at 10:54pm UTC)
Cool.
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Re: American Mythology (25th Jan 17 at 5:44pm UTC)
I think Shooter's story is going to be shorter than I thought:

http://www.jcvaughn.net/


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Re: American Mythology (25th Jan 17 at 10:25pm UTC)
I still think it could be 8 pages and that's what I was expecting. It looks like the entire book will have competent artists. I was not expecting the hatchet cover to be the one based upon Jim's story.

JC did an EXCELLENT job spotlighting this comic. I'll give it a 12 for effort on a scale of 1 to 10. He did very well on his Facebook page also. How often do people see me praise someone for good work? When I praise something, you know I'm praising it.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 3:46pm UTC)
Variant #4:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=944524782315614

They must have ordered more than 500 copies for a store signing.

I hate the navigating of facebook. I can't tell what's where sometimes and then a giant pop up takes up and stalls my screen.

I can't see anything.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 5:38pm UTC)
 
Variant #4:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=944524782315614

They must have ordered more than 500 copies for a store signing.

I hate the navigating of facebook. I can't tell what's where sometimes and then a giant pop up takes up and stalls my screen.

I can't see anything.


The link is not working. I tried looking online and I did see this text...

"Custom Variants Available: If you want a variant cover, you can get one with an order of as few as 100 copies (plus the cost of the cover art). If you order 500 copies, we can supply a custom cover at no additional charge to you. Contact welldefinedproductions@gmail.com before December 20 to set this up."

That's fine. Now I have three versions that are common and not special for any reason in comparison to one that has a limit to 100 copies or 500 copies.
I'm not going to chase store variants. I'm not going to chase convention variants. American Mythology has lost a customer for life. I think I'll send them an email.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 7:15pm UTC)
Fired off an email to the gmail address I posted above.

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I saw a link online here:
http://jcvaughn.net/bedtimeOrder.html

It is stating that custom variants for Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children #1 are available for order in quantities as low as 100 copies.

I am writing to let you know that I was excited and eager to see Jim Shooter's return to writing comics.
It occurs periodically, but such events are spaced so far apart that it doesn't motivate people to drive to their comic shop regularly to scour through the listings in PREVIEWS to find them.
I am one such individual. I have been buying and collecting comics on and off for approximately 45 years. I own somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 comics.
Jim's writing style is one that appeals to me more than that of the current writers employed in the comics industry today. My tastes have been refined over the years because I've seen comics at their worst and I've seen them at their best. I can thumb through a comic in seconds and know whether it has the potential to entertain me.

Upon initially learning online that Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children #1 would include Jim's writing I immediately reviewed the PREVIEWS listing online.
It was then that I realized the comic would have 3 covers. I was dismayed. It was a paradoxical situation in that I wanted to align my support behind the comic 100%, but I didn't want to buy three covers for the same comic.

Money is not the issue. I can afford comics even at modern prices. The problem is that I am a collector as well as a reader. I do not want half a set of something nor do I really want a comic with 2 or more covers unless there is something special really about the variant. In order to support Jim's involvement, I set aside funds and I ordered 5 copies of each cover of this comic from the PREVIEWS listing. I typically do this when I want extra copies to trade or to be available to my friends or other collectors who were not aware that the comic was solicited.

I haven't pre-ordered a comic through PREVIEWS in over a decade. I'm friends with many retailers because I've been collecting for so long. I've seen stores struggle and close. I've seen their financial good times and bad times. To help my local retailer's bottom line, I pre-paid for the 15 copies in December knowing that it would not ship until February. I wanted them to be glad they supported this comic by ordering it for me. They know I'm not a deadbeat customer and I'm one of the customers that they'd like to see on a regular basis. The simple act of me buying anything perks them up.

I bought the three solicited variants knowing full well that I would quit supporting future offerings if the practice of producing variants for every issue did not cease.
Today, I was told that another limited variant for the first issue does exist. That means that the comic is not even released yet, and the 15 copies I own are already the common, bland versions that lack anything different or special about them. A more rare version likely exists and there is no prestige or anything special about owning the ones I will own. As a collector, I like the comics I own to hold value or be desirable. I can buy a new comic to read for $4 and then discover it's only worth a quarter in 6 months, or I can be discerning and buy a new comic to read that will still be worth $4 in 6 months. I bought Valiant Comics at cover price in the 90's and traded them for an Amazing Fantasy #15. For me there is no wisdom in buying comics when the publishers are sabotaging any collectors from wanting to collect a series or set. Collectors are the only people who will buy every issue from a series even if they know there were a few duds in the run. Readers that don't care about collecting are fickle. They chase after the flavor of the month and then get bored with it.

I guess my real point is that excessive variants are going to be the #1 reason that American Mythology never gets another penny of my money. I'm not saying it out of anger. It's not a threat because they weren't getting my money before anyway. I just wanted you to be aware that this practice might have gotten a few stores to order a few extra copies in advance, but in the long run, the publisher is losing all future sales from collectors like me that have money and are tired of throwing it away. If I simply want to read a comic, someone has already pirated it. I can sit in any comic shop in Atlanta and read a comic off the shelf. No one will chastise me because they like me. My hope is that publishers quit being short-sighted and realize that there is no long term wisdom to publishing 2 or more covers on a comic. It discourages collecting. It discourages interest in back issues. Back issue sales at a comic book store helps boost the order of new comics because the stores will have a healthier cash flow and they can invest in new comics more aggressively.

That's just my opinion. You are welcome to ignore it and delete the email altogether. My feeling won't be hurt. I've been disappointed about the comics industry for a long time.


Figured I'd share my comments here.

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It looks like a nice cover. Maybe it would have worked for an issue #2. Smiley

When I pick up the comic in February, I won't have much else to discuss about this publisher. My excitement level is at zero now and the comic hasn't even been released yet.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 7:36pm UTC)
I'm going to have to review the content of this thread over the weekend.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 7:41pm UTC)
 
I'm going to have to review the content of this thread over the weekend.


Probably so. I'm not promoting them anymore. I quit promoting Dark Horse's Gold Key comics when they released the C2E2 (?) variant of SOLAR and you had to jump through hoops to get one. I don't jump through hoops. I don't even want to be given a copy. It's the principle. I don't want the variant to exist.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 7:58pm UTC)
Imagine if Mile High has one coming too. This is the first time i've heard of "Best Comics" as a store. I'm thinking the larger chains might have done a hidden custom cover as well since this one just popped up.

It's already annoying for fans who just want that tiny short story contribution from Shooter. Which American Myth has yet to promote on their site.



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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 10:32pm UTC)
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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 11:14pm UTC)
Absurd they aren't promoting Shooter.
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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 11:28pm UTC)
lol....not even a tiny cover blurb credit with his last name on it. Or Joe James. Or J. Vaughn.

The last time I saw multiple Shooter variants, was for Dark Horse Solar #1 which had 3 covers. One of those was a San Diego exclusive of 1000 printed.

Bedtime Stories is up 4 variants so far and counting!
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Re: American Mythology (26th Jan 17 at 11:53pm UTC)
 
Absurd they aren't promoting Shooter.


Yeah.

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Re: American Mythology (27th Jan 17 at 3:38am UTC)
 
lol....not even a tiny cover blurb credit with his last name on it. Or Joe James. Or J. Vaughn.

The last time I saw multiple Shooter variants, was for Dark Horse Solar #1 which had 3 covers. One of those was a San Diego exclusive of 1000 printed.

Bedtime Stories is up 4 variants so far and counting!


A huge and rather ugly ad on the cover. Nothing value-added.
I was going to comment on the Nelms cover art but I don't care anymore. They lost me.

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Re: American Mythology (28th Jan 17 at 2:03am UTC)
I think it's lost it's chance to be a low print Walking Dead #1. I thought the 3 "regular" variants were going to have a low print run as it was. Variant 4 made them less special. I was surprised a comic shop even noticed this title enough to order a custom store variant. They must know Shooter or Vaughn from the area.



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I think it's lost it's chance to be a low print Walking Dead #1. I thought the 3 "regular" variants were going to have a low print run as it was. Variant 4 made them less special. I was surprised a comic shop even noticed this title enough to order a custom store variant. They must know Shooter or Vaughn from the area.


I don't want anyone to think I was sitting around hoping that the comic would be a low print run. I want the print run to be correctly sized for the market so that the back issue market can respond accordingly. Variants distort supply and demand numbers from being real. There are collectors who would part with their regular versions because they have the rarest version. This will devalue a comic that might've had a chance of building an audience in the past. In comics, all it takes is the widespread belief that a comic will be hot or rare and the price will increase accordingly. When comics are deemed collectible to the consumers, it increases the number of consumers who are genuinely interested in that product. Collectibility feeds the demand and the desire to order subsequent issues. It's important to keep it simple. A five issue series with 25 covers to collect kills any collector's desire to be a compeletist. I made this observation when compiling checklists for dead universes. One of the deadest of all universes is Harris Comics who was one of the first companies to publish excessive variants. Excessive production of variants is the #1 way in my opinion to assure that no one will give a damn about collecting back issues for your company. If no one is collecting back issues, then there is no conversation feeding the discussion of new releases.

Comic shops and publishers are unable to gauge demand or appropriate order numbers because they tamper with every number that would reveal that info to them. Ideally, comic shops would order a #1 issue. They would factor a certain 'known' level of attrition for the second issues. Comic shops know that more people want #1 issues to give them a shot. They know that sales decline on #2 issues. On a monthly book in the past, sales would typically decline until the 4th issue which was ordered blindly. I say it was ordered blindly because the retailer would not have the sales results for issue #1 back before they placed the order for #4. Through cycle counting, a store would see which titles were building or decreasing in demand.

Let's look at an order scenario for a popular and well received comic.
A store might order 10 copies of a #1. 6 copies of a #2. 3 copies of a #3. 2 copies of a #4.
Let's say on week 2, they realize they've sold 8 copies of #1 already. That means they will probably bump orders for #5 to 8 copies. They know that the book was selling well and they know it still may have some attrition coming into play.
On week three, they discover they've sold out of issue #1 & have 1 copy left of #2. Chances are high that they will bump orders on issue #6 to 10 or 12 copies. The comic has sold higher than they anticipated. They want to boost order number to accommodate the higher than normal demand.
On week 4, they order another 10 to 12 copies. They locate another copy of issue #1 to sell and price it 25% above cover price. They locate extra copies of #2 & #3 to fill the demand of the regular customers that missed it. They are afraid to charge extra for the books they underordered the first time.

My point is that there is a constant checks and balances by which to gauge whether the book was hot. When you start throwing variants into the mix, you have people buying the comic for completely unrelated reasons to whether they liked the comic or not. You sell an extra 5 copies of #1, but no one really gave a damn about the comic. They are ready to flip it as soon as #2 came out. Even if there was a chance they'd like the comic, they will emotionally part from collecting the comic in order to make a quick flip profit. At this point, the series loses a customer entirely that might have stuck with the book and read it if the sales had occurred organically.

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Re: American Mythology (28th Jan 17 at 4:34pm UTC)
You took down the ordering info thread, I see.
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Re: American Mythology (28th Jan 17 at 5:07pm UTC)
Yes and no.
I removed the "sticky" and I merged it into this thread. It shows under the date I posted it in this thread. I am no longer promoting people to buy the comic. I no longer think it is a wise investment and I no longer think it is good in the long term for Jim's return to writing. It was already borderline in my mind. They could still do something interesting with it, but I am not going to chase down store variants and I don't even want them in my comic boxes. If I don't support something 100%, I'm not going to support it at all.

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Re: American Mythology (28th Jan 17 at 5:32pm UTC)
This was another reason why I don't buy new Star Wars Marvel. When they started their 120+ store exclusive variant for that launch issue in Jan. 2015, I was relieved in not wanting to buy a single copy.

Marvel got paid right away by those stores and used press releases as bragging rights saying how they printed a million copies. But that never got them 1 million readers.

This smaller American Myth press thing is just trying to test the Shooter fanbase to buy a cheap black and white short story over and over. I'm curious to see if Chuck R. for Mile High has one on order but i'm sure he would have promoted one in his newsletters with a month to go by now so probably not.



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Re: American Mythology (28th Jan 17 at 11:34pm UTC)
 
This was another reason why I don't buy new Star Wars Marvel. When they started their 120+ store exclusive variant for that launch issue in Jan. 2015, I was relieved in not wanting to buy a single copy.

Marvel got paid right away by those stores and used press releases as bragging rights saying how they printed a million copies. But that never got them 1 million readers.

This smaller American Myth press thing is just trying to test the Shooter fanbase to buy a cheap black and white short story over and over. I'm curious to see if Chuck R. for Mile High has one on order but i'm sure he would have promoted one in his newsletters with a month to go by now so probably not.





Gaining readers is a slow tedious process. Life and other obligations will pull people away. Proper marketing has to be done to make people aware.
Trust has to be established.

I guess they are doing me a favor by making me disinterested this early. I save $$$ going forward.

They can publish as B&W now and then reprint as color if the title is an ongoing series that does well.

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Re: American Mythology (5th Feb 17 at 3:40pm UTC)
Joe James will be at the signing too:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210554369047730&set=a.3987799145659.152537.1601243364&type=3&theater

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Re: American Mythology (5th Feb 17 at 6:48pm UTC)
I can't help but wonder if the extra orders and sales justify this kind of representation for a signing.

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Re: American Mythology (5th Feb 17 at 8:25pm UTC)
Maybe that was part of a local deal in ordering 500 copies to get them to show up. Their star power presence will probably move a couple hundred copies. And another hundred if one of the valiantfans leeches buy up the rest and sell them as an overpriced forum project. {Rolleyes} Like that never happens! Smiley

I wouldn't mind a copy signed by them. Mini "Dark Dominion" reunion.

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Re: American Mythology (5th Feb 17 at 9:25pm UTC)
I don't really care about signed comics. Paul Jenkins was at a comic show today and he'd signed some comics with a tiny little sketch as part of his signature. I thought about buying something from him for the hell of it but he didn't write anything that I cared about.

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Re: American Mythology (6th Feb 17 at 12:35am UTC)
I haven't pre-ordered any yet. I think i'll wait until release day & see what the store has left. I would have bought multiples earlier but maybe I'll spend it on convention tickets for an upcoming show. More fun to get stuff signed or buy oddities instead.

I'll be happy with the blue cover variant out of the 4 so far. I like the cover of Best Comics but if it's a mission to get, I won't lose sleep.


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Re: American Mythology (6th Feb 17 at 3:04am UTC)
I finally saw the owner of the store where I pre-ordered mine. She said her reaction was "Oh crap! He ordered something!"

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Re: American Mythology (17th Feb 17 at 12:04am UTC)
5 more days and they still don't promote the Jim Shooter comic. It's not even orderable on their online shop. Amazing how they don't give 3 shits about it.

I don't know about facebook but I bet JC Vaughn's page gets more page visits over the regular American Myth site.
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Re: American Mythology (17th Feb 17 at 12:43am UTC)
 
5 more days and they still don't promote the Jim Shooter comic. It's not even orderable on their online shop. Amazing how they don't give 3 shits about it.

I don't know about facebook but I bet JC Vaughn's page gets more page visits over the regular American Myth site.


I'm 100% sure of it! Who is out there saying "My God! I've got to see what new 3 Stooges comic variants
are being released this month!" "Oh Shit! The Pink Panther Inspector has a new comic! That's the best shit I've ever read!"

It's called aspirations of mediocrity.

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5 more days and they still don't promote the Jim Shooter comic. It's not even orderable on their online shop. Amazing how they don't give 3 shits about it.

I don't know about facebook but I bet JC Vaughn's page gets more page visits over the regular American Myth site.


I'm 100% sure of it! Who is out there saying "My God! I've got to see what new 3 Stooges comic variants
are being released this month!" "Oh Shit! The Pink Panther Inspector has a new comic! That's the best shit I've ever read!"

It's called aspirations of mediocrity.

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Hey, I love the Stooges! I had some interest in the Three Stooges comics and would have possibly been buying them if I hadn't scaled back my new comic buying. I was starting to get back into going to a shop each week and picking up books, but then I thought about it and decided it was too much wasted money out the door.

I do agree with the annoyance of all the variants, though. I have most of the independent Three Stooges comics that came out since the original Gold Key series ended, and it was pretty easy to do, since there were only a handful. No way would I have tried to acquire every variant this company is coming up with.

To be honest, I mainly buy Stooges comics out of fandom, can't say I actually want to read comic stories about them, as there's really no way for them to capture the humor of the Stooge films.
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To be honest, I mainly buy Stooges comics out of fandom, can't say I actually want to read comic stories about them, as there's really no way for them to capture the humor of the Stooge films.



This above is really my point.

Essentially, the guy who is interested was not interested enough to buy them every month for cover price. {Grin} Image
They are not promoting something that could potentially create a new readership, while pandering to a decreasing fan base for something that probably saw it's peak in the 1940's.

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Re: American Mythology (19th Feb 17 at 1:28am UTC)
Shouldn't the new Shooter story be out by now?
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Re: American Mythology (19th Feb 17 at 2:55am UTC)
Wednesday Feb 22nd

4 more days.

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It fell over and broke. {Cry}

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Haha! Good one.
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Re: American Mythology (19th Feb 17 at 2:58pm UTC)
I wish I had a copy coming. I just no longer feel like driving through the city to a comic shop for any reason, and I can't bring myself to order a single copy and pay shipping on it. Maybe I'll find on Wednesday I want one enough to do something about it.
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Re: American Mythology (19th Feb 17 at 8:33pm UTC)
Here's what American Myth ships this week:


- AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY PRODUCTIONS -

- BEDTIME STORIES FOR IMPRESSIONABLE CHILDREN #1
- CRYPT OF SCREAMS #1
- PINK PANTHER SNOW DAY

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It's under a lot of pressure to be good.

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Re: American Mythology (19th Feb 17 at 10:26pm UTC)
Crypt of Screams is a good name, from where I stand.
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Bah! Just stay out of crypts and cemeteries! The screaming will stop!

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