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Re: American Mythology (20th Feb 17 at 1:41am UTC)
I'm not sure I can stay away.
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Re: American Mythology (20th Feb 17 at 5:27am UTC)
They've had two months to mention the comic on their Twitter feed and there is NOTHING. I considered that they might want to keep their Twitter feed "kid friendly", but they've promoted other things which are not "kid friendly".

It just baffles me that that they'd pay for a solicitation in Previews which will reach a very limited audience, but they won't post a [EXPLETIVE DELETED] post on Twitter that can potentially (randomly) reach the whole world.

The complete lack of common sense baffles me. They can't say they didn't think about it because they are promoting other series on Twitter. It's almost as if they have insecure dipshits employed that are afraid the comic will outperform theirs.

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Re: American Mythology (20th Feb 17 at 3:26pm UTC)
The "Hatchet" comic they're promoting is pretty gruesome looking on their feed. It's like they don't want to acknowledge anything about the new Shooter book. But they'll still release 4 different covers for it. {Angry}

I see the Pink Panther Snow Day comic variants are on the online shop now and that ships with Bedtime Stories. They update their online shop, they just don't wanna mention the Shooter book.

I placed an order for a set but I know I won't receive it for at least a week. Unless a preview is posted online I won't get to read it until later on.

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Re: American Mythology (20th Feb 17 at 4:24pm UTC)
I'm starting to think that J.C. Vaughn did all the legwork and rounded up the creators for this and maybe they are publishing it more to stay in good graces with him & Diamond.

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Re: American Mythology (21st Feb 17 at 7:46pm UTC)
The comics shipped and they are at my local comic shop. I physically saw them, but I can't pick them up until tomorrow since the 22nd is the sale date.

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Re: American Mythology (21st Feb 17 at 11:34pm UTC)
That's cool. Almost there. As a fan, this sort of feels like a big launch release....almost a secret underground release since it's barely promoted...
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Feb 17 at 12:09am UTC)
I tried coaxing him into letting me get them early. He said no. The owner may be working tomorrow. She may have planned to be there when I pick them up.

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Re: American Mythology (22nd Feb 17 at 3:53pm UTC)
Did he think you're a secret shopper from diamond who's trying to report him for selling early? Smiley Smiley

I have a friend who gets his books on a tuesday night but it's mainly because he spends hundreds a week there.

I see my order is getting shipped today. Gonna take like 9 days to get to me.

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Re: American Mythology (22nd Feb 17 at 4:25pm UTC)
Where did you order from, VS?
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Feb 17 at 10:32pm UTC)
I've been popping in today checking to see if anyone has picked up a copy yet, and waiting for comments.
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Feb 17 at 10:42pm UTC)
 
Did he think you're a secret shopper from diamond who's trying to report him for selling early? Smiley Smiley

I have a friend who gets his books on a tuesday night but it's mainly because he spends hundreds a week there.

I see my order is getting shipped today. Gonna take like 9 days to get to me.



I still think of him as a kid. He's just following the rules. The girl who used to run the store for the owners would have probably given them to me early. She hasn't worked there in over 6 years. She had told me once that I was her favorite customers because I could make all the annoying geeks just shut up. They'd be rambling incessantly about which Batman actor was better on screen. I'd toss in one scathing comment and they would shut up. Another store manager (the guy who stole my Daring Comics press packet) said the same thing about me. One customer just annoyed the hell out of him but the guy would not say a word if I was in the store. Other people liked me being in the store. One lady used to smile from ear to ear if I was at the local comic shop. She said she drove 30 miles just to shop where I hung out and she passed two store in the process. I have the comics. i read them. Comments are forthcoming very soon.

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Re: American Mythology (22nd Feb 17 at 11:56pm UTC)
Pretty cool. Looking forward to hearing how it reads. I ordered a regular set from Midtowncomics. I like how they use boxes for books.

I actually called Best Comics and placed an order for that 4th variant. Might as well at this point to complete the 4. It was $5 for the regular store variant and the store had one signed by the three creators so they offered it for $10. While I was on the phone I asked how the signing went and they said it went well and that Jim had alot of stories to tell. I also asked if he mentioned any upcoming projects he might be working on and he mentioned it was the same commercial custom work mostly. And that he mentioned if issue #1 sold well, they might do an issue #2.


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Re: American Mythology (23rd Feb 17 at 1:26am UTC)
 
I've been popping in today checking to see if anyone has picked up a copy yet, and waiting for comments.


After leaving work, I made pretty good time getting across town to the comic shop. After driving through Metro Atlanta traffic for 1 hour and 3 minutes, I walked in the store. I'd have gotten there faster but I got behind two people that were driving 10 miles per hour below the speed limit and they hit the brakes for every fictitious car that was not in front of them.

I opted to read the blank cover version because I care the least about those. I like the fact that the variants are labeled on the back cover. The orange cover is cover "A". The blue cover is cover 'B". The blank cover is cover "C". This store bags their comics upside down because they don't like to see the flaps sticking up in the comic boxes.

After carefully extracting the comic from a new comic bag, I started reading. On the inside cover the credits list Jim Shooter's story as the first one. I look at the art and it's competent, but undesirable. The kids faces have an exaggerated cartoon-like appearance. I cringe and think immediately that Joe James' art has really gotten worse. Then I flip the page and think "Hmm! This is more interesting." Eventually, I realized that each story has an introduction which gives the comic a "Bedtime Stories" theme. The opening page was not Joe James art. The interesting art was by Joe James. I was not pleased with the inking, but this is a common complaint I have when an artist inks his own work. I don't even like it when Neal Adams inks his own art. Good inking is in my opinion a big deal. Despite that, the art on Jim's story was not distracting. I feel that Jim's strong suit is plotting, so the dialogue was okay but seemed a little clunky for me. His story is only 7 pages. It could have been 8 as I'd predicted, but I did not anticipate introduction pages to each story by another artist. The story seemed to be modeled after an EC story with a twist "shock" ending. The build-up was well done, but it ended abruptly with the "shock" ending happening so quickly that there was no time to be shocked. In other words... it just is. It's nothing noteworthy enough to post on messageboards to praise, but it was nice seeing the story. it was nice seeing Jim do something different.

The Nelms story was a little more intricate. It was perhaps too much info squeezed into the 7 or 8 pages it involved. I liked all the photo-realistic backgrounds, but the main characters were not as detailed. My main complaint again with his art is the minimalist cartoon animation style art of the main characters. The faces appeared to be reminiscent of real Hollywood actors, but I'd like some more realistic renderings. At one scene there is a "blast". I won't describe it differently because I don't want to give away any spoilers. The "Blast" is VERY well rendered, but it is not consistent with what the "blast" should really look like. I'm reminded of Toth's criticism of Steve Rude's artwork where he says what Steve Rude drew was "fake".

It wasn't actually until the third story seque that I understood the format that was being presented. The last story was drawn by Gene Gonzales. Although he had simplistic renderings which made me frown, overall I felt his art had the most balance to it. It was the most consistent. The inking was stronger than the Joe James story. The dialogue wasn't as clunky as Jim's story. Much like Jim's story, it too had a shock ending that arrived too abruptly. The only problem with the third story is that I don't feel as though it properly led the reader to the shock ending it delivered.

Jim's story had a more logical conclusion. Gene's story had a more strange conclusion.

If a subsequent issue was ever published, I'd like to see the format modified slightly. I'd like them to abandon the introduction pages and have the creators incorporate the theme into the first page more like EC did. EC's formula worked and it kept the stories tighter with the Cryptkeeper acting more like a host telling the story. The story introduction pages were a little awkward to me. I'd like the art to be more serious and less of a cartoon style. I'd like the inking to be strong and crisp. The inky on Gene's work seemed muddy. The inking of Joe James art came across as weak and almost grey tone in appearance. The Nelms art was fairly balanced as far as shading goes, but the key characters just weren't up to par as far as how I'd like to see art rendered.

I skimmed over the preview for an upcoming title in the back of the book. I'd rather see J.C. Vaughn do an editorial page and drop the preview down to one page or replace it with a compelling ad for some other book. The previews aren't appealing at all.

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Feb 17 at 1:46am UTC)
 
Pretty cool. Looking forward to hearing how it reads. I ordered a regular set from Midtowncomics. I like how they use boxes for books.

I actually called Best Comics and placed an order for that 4th variant. Might as well at this point to complete the 4. It was $5 for the regular store variant and the store had one signed by the three creators so they offered it for $10. While I was on the phone I asked how the signing went and they said it went well and that Jim had alot of stories to tell. I also asked if he mentioned any upcoming projects he might be working on and he mentioned it was the same commercial custom work mostly. And that he mentioned if issue #1 sold well, they might do an issue #2.


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It sounds like Jim is just doing subcontract work for Neal and not designing a new Continuity Comics universe.
This would also make Jim's recent ties to Renee Witterstaetter & Eva Ink Artists Group logical since Michael Golden has always collaborated with Neal & his Continuity publishing efforts. Ms. Witterstaetter and Michael Golden are frequently working in a co-joined fashion.

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Re: American Mythology (23rd Feb 17 at 2:46am UTC)
Thanks for the review!
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Re: American Mythology (23rd Feb 17 at 4:37pm UTC)
How's the paper quality?

I never thought about the upside down bagging of a comic. Makes me think about it....if I placed another bagged comic behind that one, it may get caught in the lower one's flap as I organized a newer comic behind it. Causing a tug of war in fitting the book in a box and then it potentially getting caught in the scotch tape of the bottom flap if there's an opening. Then I lift it up and it looks like a tangled comic chain. Smiley

Did the book ready any different/better than his Dark Horse run? Or Legion...
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Re: American Mythology (23rd Feb 17 at 8:16pm UTC)
Pics of the signing:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1748051505508706&set=a.1428414937472366.1073741829.100009116208470&type=3&theater

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Re: American Mythology (24th Feb 17 at 1:40am UTC)
 
How's the paper quality?

I never thought about the upside down bagging of a comic. Makes me think about it....if I placed another bagged comic behind that one, it may get caught in the lower one's flap as I organized a newer comic behind it. Causing a tug of war in fitting the book in a box and then it potentially getting caught in the scotch tape of the bottom flap if there's an opening. Then I lift it up and it looks like a tangled comic chain. Smiley

Did the book ready any different/better than his Dark Horse run? Or Legion...


I don't get hung up on paper quality, so it's not something I thought about. Now that you mention it, the pages were very thin and I almost missed the middle of the story because 2 pages were clinging together so well. I read the first part and skipped the pages by accident. Then I wondered how many pages it was. I stopped reading to count the pages and that's how I realized I'd missed reading two pages. In all honesty, I think the story read about the same with or without the two pages. The missing pages added a little figurative color to the plot, but since these aren't elements that will be relevant after the payload is delivered, it really didn't matter.

Bagging comics upside down is just a nuisance to me. I guess if you are used to it, the ONLY thing it solves is the corners of the flap sticking up. Who cares that much? They do obviously. I like the flap at the top so that it's immediately oriented properly for me to start opening it. I can start sliding my finger behind the flap before it's even fully out of the box. I haven't seen any tangled comic chains or tape issues. I just have to pull it out of the box and flip it. I'm too lazy to do that. {Grin}

I can't compare it to any of his super-hero stuff. There are elements that could be built upon for a larger story. As a stand-alone story, I just took it for what it is. Because of the introduction pages, I was just confused well into the second story as to what J.C. was trying to do. I think this book is all his concept for an anthology horror title. Jim wrote a stand-alone story, but J.C. weaves it into a bedtime stories theme.

Since I like larger concepts and larger interwoven themes. this doesn't excite me. Dark Horse's stuff didn't excite me because I knew it was going to crap out before the larger interconnected nature was going to play out. I liked the fact that he steered clear of sexual themes. Nothing he's written horrified me or offended me due to sexual content, but I just felt it needed to be left out if he wants to maximize the potential size of his audience. I'd like him to read about 50 EC stories and write something else in this vein. I think he captured the format, but he didn't perfect the suspense or timing adequately. I thought it was a good first attempt.

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Re: American Mythology (24th Feb 17 at 2:51am UTC)


Not seeing anything to comment about.

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Re: American Mythology (25th Feb 17 at 7:46am UTC)
Hopefully this image will post:
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I am not pleased with the art on the characters for the Nelms story. Silhouettes in the top panel is cheesy to me.

Here's another page. Backgrounds are excellent, foreground is very disappointing:
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Re: American Mythology (25th Feb 17 at 7:55am UTC)

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http://www.facebook.com/ImpressionableChildren/

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Re: American Mythology (25th Feb 17 at 7:58am UTC)
Here is Joe James' art:

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I wish it had some heavier inking without the greyed out look. I know sun is shining through in this panel, but the characters should still be crisp & clear or why draw them?

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Re: American Mythology (25th Feb 17 at 8:01am UTC)
Here is the Gonzales art.

It's more like looking at Archie comic art. It is more balanced despite having a simplistic style.

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There is a lot of foreshadowing on this page. I'll give the artist credit for that.

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Re: American Mythology (25th Feb 17 at 4:54pm UTC)
Pretty cool. I wanna read the book already. I see what you mean about the Joe James page. I'm getting a Twilight Zone flashback from the first b&w page there.

I hope I see one of the 2 packages this weekend. Probably by Monday.



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Re: American Mythology (25th Feb 17 at 5:52pm UTC)
The images J.C. posted had more spoilers than I was willing to post. I don't think I ruined any of the story in my review.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Feb 17 at 12:46am UTC)
No packages from either store today. {Unsure}

I like how American myth mentions the obscure "Bedtime" title on twitter yet zero mention of Jim Shooter's writing work in it.... Smiley

They could have shortened their hashtag with a #JimShooter instead of #bedtimestoriesforimpressionablechildren....a title that no one even knows what it is...

Really awesome way to promote a legend. It's like they really don't want to mention him.


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Re: American Mythology (26th Feb 17 at 2:49am UTC)
American Mythology has repeatedly promoted that J.C. Vaughn's work is being incorporated into their umbrella of titles. The Twitter feed for Bedtime Stories goes back the the first series when Moonstone published it. It says that "Bedtime Stories" was created by J. C. Vaughn. In a way, it all makes sense. American Mythology is not promoting Jim because he isn't working for them. He's working for J.C. ..... J.C. is promoting Jim at a lower level, but he's really wanting to promote his line of comics. In a way, I know who J.C. is because of Jim. In that sense, J.C. is establishing himself across the whole industry as a multi-talented creator. To me, they all need to get on the same page and promote the books together.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Feb 17 at 3:48am UTC)
I hope it does well. {Unsure}
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Re: American Mythology (27th Feb 17 at 10:38pm UTC)
Finally:

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I noticed the regular variants are very thin in hand. Not the hard glossy covers I thought it would be. The Blank variant is the sturdiest of them all.

Good to see Shooter's name again inside a new comic. Been six years since that last Turok #4 from Dark Horse. Even though he's been doing other commercial stuff (whatever those are!).

Going to read this soon.


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Re: American Mythology (27th Feb 17 at 11:02pm UTC)
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Re: American Mythology (27th Feb 17 at 11:25pm UTC)
I only opened the blank cover to read it. I want to handle these as little as possible. That is why I never noticed the difference in paper stock.

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Re: American Mythology (28th Feb 17 at 1:11am UTC)
Here are representative scans of my copies. Didn't scan the multiples.


Bedtime Stories for Impressionable Children #1 (Cover A)
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Bedtime Stories for Impressionable Children #1 (Cover B )
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Bedtime Stories for Impressionable Children #1 (Cover C)
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Re: American Mythology (2nd Mar 17 at 6:02pm UTC)
So, it looks like no more Shooter stories scheduled from this publisher?
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Re: American Mythology (2nd Mar 17 at 6:42pm UTC)
No idea!

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Ha ha...
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 12:07am UTC)
I went ahead and got the previous Bedtime Stories #1 from Moonstone that came out in 2010 to see if there were any continuity connections to the new issue. So I opened it and the intro page looked and read familiar to me. It was the exact same intro pages to the one from last week's issue. lol.

The "Alonzo Segments" are all from this old issue. Same script in the word balloons too.

The following story is the "Like mother, like daughter" short story illustrated by Gene Gonzalez. The exact same story reprinted in the third act of last week's issue. I guess that was mentioned before that there would be reprints so these are the ones they were referring to. The next 2 short stories are very different so I have to read those. Artwise I can see why they didn't keep them for the new volume. The Joe James and Nelms stories look alot better. I jumped to the back editorial page and there was a mention of JCV's co-writing work on the Mighty Samson issue with Shooter back in December 2010. This issue must have been a Fall release of that year.

And there was a preview cover image for a Bedtime Stories #2 coming out. I'm not sure if that exists but the cover had a sci-fi outer space look to it with an astronaut on the cover.

Anyhow, I thought it was funny re-reading the same pages in the older book. I thought there was going more back stories and history in the original Bedtime Stories title. Not really! Maybe they're using the new issue as a remastered version but with Shooter's name attached. ? ? ?


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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 12:19am UTC)
I believe Moonstone offers creators a cut of profits from a book, but there are never or rarely profits. At least that's what I saw one creator who did something for Moonstone say. Using material reprinted from Moonstone makes me wonder if these guys are even paying their creators.
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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 1:19am UTC)
{Rolleyes}

Wow! That's cheesy. 4 covers on a comic that's 30% reprint material. I wonder how well it sold.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 1:40am UTC)
Yea, it feels like a re-gift of repackaged reprints. Smiley At least it got Shooter to write something small I guess.

I predict it sold in the 4000 unit range. With 3 or 2 copies ordered per store with those variants if lucky. Maybe 4500 with the store variant.


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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 2:41am UTC)
You think it sold as well as a low selling superhero comic even though it's a very low tier publisher with a non-superhero theme? I haven't followed numbers, but it wouldn't shock me if it was off the top 300 list. I'm not saying that to justify buying multiples, but the theme seems outside of what would be on a comic shops radar when ordering.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 3:44am UTC)
Royalties is the word I was trying to think of. This creator did something for Moonstone and was promised royalties and later was told there were none. I think that tactic is common among most publishers today. Not the biggest few publishers, but a large portion of the rest.
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Royalties is the word I was trying to think of. This creator did something for Moonstone and was promised royalties and later was told there were none. I think that tactic is common among most publishers today. Not the biggest few publishers, but a large portion of the rest.


The smaller publishers aren't making money. Not enough to pay the artists a fair wage. If they got a base salary that was acceptable plus royalties, that would be reasonable. In some cases I think they want to be successful enough to pay royalties, but the money isn't there.

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It'll probably be another week until February sales get released. Maybe it'll break at least 3000 units if retailers noticed Jim Shooter's name from the previews catalog and ordered a set. A retailer would have to be eagle eyed to spot the "American Mythology" solicitations section among a 400 page previews catalog to notice there was a new Shooter book coming. Unless they get special email reminders from Diamond.

This title probably would have been better off as a Halloween season release instead of a random February indie title.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 5:12pm UTC)
Everything J. C. writes appears to be horror. He'd have to wait a year between solicitations. Perhaps he should diversify.

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Re: American Mythology (3rd Mar 17 at 6:33pm UTC)
So, we might know the print run in a week or so?
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Re: American Mythology (6th Mar 17 at 3:27pm UTC)
http://blog.comichron.com/2017/03/february-2017-comics-sales-estimates.html


#366 -359 - Bedtime Stories For Impressionable Children 1 $3.99 American Mythology 2,229

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Re: American Mythology (6th Mar 17 at 5:46pm UTC)
Not shocking to me. That's more like I would've expected. Now I'm wondering what percentages are the breakdowns. Some of the original 3 covers could have less than 500 copies.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 12:16am UTC)
Shooter's least printed story?
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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 12:51am UTC)
Nah! "Miracle on Broadway" has fewer copies.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 1:48am UTC)
Oh yeah...
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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 4:24pm UTC)
It's shockingly low, even with the 4th variant store exclusive thrown in there. (100-500 copies?). If that store really ordered 500 copies, that makes 1700 units for the other issues. Before store returns factored in. No wonder it's not listed in the American Myth online shop. Not enough copies. Smiley It's still their second best selling title after "Stargate" which ranks at 2929 units.

Imagine if they actually promoted the thing.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 5:24pm UTC)
It's possible that the 4th variant was not included in the Diamond numbers. I'm not sure how that works because I thought they have an exclusive deal with Diamond. They do sell through their store, so it'd be nice to know what the details are in a Diamond contract.

I knew it would be a low ordered item which is why I bought three of each.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 7:46pm UTC)
Next to lowest print run of a Shooter story...
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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 9:08pm UTC)
It's a pretty tiny unit run for each of those covers....if the brand name ever catches on in the future in some form, it at least it has a lower print run than the early Walking Deads:

http://www.recalledcomics.com/TheWalkingDead1.php

I remember the recent Marvel Star Wars store variants did get included in those Diamond charts. That's why they had the obnoxious bragging rights press releases for selling so high even though it was the multiple chains of stores ordering exclusive variants instead of actual buying customers/readers.
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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 10:52pm UTC)
There may be an individual cover that has a lower print run than "Miracle on Broadway", but if you were going by an individual cover, the no-foil Splatterball is the rarest. The store variant could be included in the numbers for Diamond, but I'm inclined to believe it isn't. I thought Marvel solicited the store variants through Previews. This store variant wasn't. It depends upon what kind of arrangement that the publisher has with Diamond in regards to their store. I'm more inclined to believe that J.C. hand delivered the American Mythology store variant and that Diamond wasn't involved. I could be wrong of course.

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Re: American Mythology (7th Mar 17 at 11:21pm UTC)
 
Next to lowest print run of a Shooter story...


I was going to set Warriors of Plasm #1 next to Miracle on Broadway and say that Warriors of Plasm#1 was next to the lowest print run book. Unfortunately my copy wasn't where I thought it would be. {Tongue Out}

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Re: American Mythology (8th Mar 17 at 1:45am UTC)
I was going by total copies of a Shooter story in print, including all covers combined.
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Re: American Mythology (8th Mar 17 at 3:29am UTC)
 
I was going by total copies of a Shooter story in print, including all covers combined.



Yeah. That would have to be the case.
We really don't know how many copies of "Seven" exist.

My guess is that the blank cover had less orders than the other two that were initially solicited. If so, I was probably justified in ordering 3 copies even though I like it the least.

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Re: American Mythology (12th May 17 at 1:04am UTC)
This is probably a good deal. Buy the grade, get the comic free.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEDTIME-STORIES-IMPRESSIONABLE-CHILDREN-1-SIGNED-JIM-SHOOTER-VARIANT-CBCS-9-8/311868393701

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Re: American Mythology (12th May 17 at 1:07am UTC)
Or another cover...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEDTIME-STORIES-FOR-IMPRESSIONABLE-CHILDREN-1-SIGN-JIM-SHOOTER-VARIANT-9-8-CBCS/311868435123

This is making me optimistic that the blank cover might be produced in very low numbers.

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Re: American Mythology (12th May 17 at 5:16pm UTC)
I remember when I called in the store to for the 4th variant, that they said were slabbing the white cover with a character called "Neegan" from Walking Dead drawn on the blank cover by Joe James and were going to auction it. That might pop up soon from them.

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Re: American Mythology (12th May 17 at 7:45pm UTC)
That would not interest me at all! I can't stand Walking Dead.

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Re: American Mythology (12th May 17 at 10:41pm UTC)
More exciting would have been a Chasm or Glimmer sketch on that kind of blank variant by Joe James.
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Re: American Mythology (13th May 17 at 2:34am UTC)
 
More exciting would have been a Chasm or Glimmer sketch on that kind of blank variant by Joe James.


Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd want the sketch to relate to the comic it was on.

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Re: American Mythology (15th May 17 at 3:49am UTC)
JC Vaughn just notified me he and Jim will be working on at least two more Bedtime Stories issues.
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Re: American Mythology (15th May 17 at 3:56am UTC)
I believe there's a good chance we'll be seeing a bunch more Shooter work in Bedtime Stories.
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Re: American Mythology (15th May 17 at 4:04am UTC)
I'll be ordering less. The variants on the first solicitation guaranteed that.

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Re: American Mythology (15th May 17 at 4:50am UTC)
Did Shooter's first story in Bedtime have potential for any characters to be ongoing? Unfortunately I've still not read it.
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Re: American Mythology (15th May 17 at 9:32am UTC)
It was too short to tell. I guess it's possible.

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Re: American Mythology (19th May 17 at 2:48pm UTC)
2 sketch covers also had sold....no characters having to do with the comic of course...:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bedtime-Stories-1-Original-034-Lexi-Belle-034-sketch-cover-/292111198752?hash=item44032f2a20%3Ag%3A-s0AAOSwaEhZEV15&nma=true&si=wLFFZAwdL9WZxNi9UclXBxYZqjk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bedtime-Stories-1-Original-034-Mia-Khalifa-034-sketch-cover-/292111199191?hash=item44032f2bd7%3Ag%3AE8cAAOSw9OFZEV3R&nma=true&si=wLFFZAwdL9WZxNi9UclXBxYZqjk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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Re: American Mythology (19th May 17 at 10:37pm UTC)
Sheesh! A porn actress. My girlfriend is prettier than Mia Khalifa. I looked her up on Google. If she's wearing a lot of make-up, she looks good.

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Re: American Mythology (20th May 17 at 12:00am UTC)
Yea, I never heard of her. The seller seems to do the same sketch ideas for his other comics:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/nortechampion/m.html?LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

Kind of hilarious for each title he picked.

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Re: American Mythology (20th May 17 at 3:55am UTC)
I remember hearing her name about 6 moths ago. When you posted the link, I'd forgotten the name, but it sounded familiar. Then I had the "oh yeah" moment. My first thought was that it was the new Ms. Marvel character.

Who out there is looking for a sketch of a porn star on a horror comic? It sounds like fap fodder to me.

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Re: American Mythology (21st May 17 at 3:19pm UTC)
I hope no one is "fapping" to their comics, I assume they won't be Near Mint after that!

Interesting note from a comic I picked up cheaply from American Mythology, the revival of Eagle, which was a manga-inspired title that came out at the time of the black and white explosion of the late 80's.

Neil Vokes thanks Jonathan Swinney and George Warner in the inside front cover and George Warner is credited with the lettering for the new story. Not sure what Mr. Swinney might have contributed. Swinney worked with some of the guys on the Valiant board on the Playing God story (I did some minor editing on parts of that) and then went on to do their "Man of God" comic. Mr. Warner used to be a member of this board.

As far as the book, Vokes' new work in my opinion is not up to par with what he did in the 80's, which is made clear by the second part of the book, which reprints an old story. I think he has tried to get away from his "manga style", but I don't think the new work is as good, either visually or storytelling-wise. He was at a local show and I looked at what he had on his table, as I liked his past work on Eagle and Robotech, but I didn't feel the need to talk to him or purchase anything.

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Re: American Mythology (21st May 17 at 4:53pm UTC)
I think Swinney has progressed from letterer to editor.

I saw post from George somewhere, but didn't linger there long enough to think about it much. He's a talented guy, but a tad too bi-polar for me. I try to forget my interactions lest I harbor ill-will towards him. I prefer not to think about him at all. I don't think he's a bad person at all.

I thought Neil Vokes had moved on to doing a web comic. I might be confusing him with someone else.

Sometimes inking makes all the difference in the world. I really don't want to see most Manga art.

The fapping reference was on my mind from a thread on another board. Smiley
It just got carried over.

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Re: American Mythology (30th Jun 17 at 9:51pm UTC)
https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JUL171349

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Re: American Mythology (30th Jun 17 at 10:30pm UTC)


Does this mean there are no variants? I don't trust them.
I'm going to search around. If there are no variants, I'll order multiples. If they release a store variant after the book is solicited, I'll never buy another product from them again. These are both "if" scenarios. It must first appear that no variants are produced.

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Re: American Mythology (30th Jun 17 at 10:54pm UTC)
I don't trust them to keep it to one cover either. I'm almost surprised they numbered this new one "2" instead of another first issue. Crossing fingers for less reprints inside!

I guess the big Previews July catalogs are out in stores now. Maybe the print version has a blurb solicit if there's gonna be variants or one of the "Order 100-500 copies for an exclusive store variant cover!" again.

I like this cover with the aliens so far. I guess this is one more Shooter short story to tide over until the Image stuff comes out. Maybe it'll be ordered higher for them since it's in time for Halloween.


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ok....I read the bottom solicit and noticed it now:

"Toothpick Warriors cover by Mark Wheatley Redneck Aliens cover by James Nelms."


2 variants so far....I guess a white sketch would probably a given again....

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Re: American Mythology (1st Jul 17 at 6:30am UTC)
I guess I'll just gamble and see if a store orders shelf copies. I told them I would not support a title with excessive variants and now it's a matter of doing what I said. {Unsure}

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Re: American Mythology (1st Jul 17 at 2:29pm UTC)
Here's the other Wheatley cover so far:

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=BEDTIME+STORIES+FOR+IMPRE_1657922




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Re: American Mythology (1st Jul 17 at 4:37pm UTC)
Since I'm not going to buy it for the cover, the cover image is going to be irrelevant. {Grin}

Since I'm not ordering in advance, there is a serious likelihood that I won't even be buying it at all. I will most likely not even make a special trip to the store. I don't expect any store in my area to order it. The one that ~might~ order it would have it on display to be manhandled before I got there. My guess is that the variant issue loses me as a customer altogether. I'm not going to buy a beat up copy.

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Re: American Mythology (1st Jul 17 at 5:15pm UTC)
I'm predicting Best Comics would order another store variant. I sense others would pop up unfortunately.

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Re: American Mythology (1st Jul 17 at 7:06pm UTC)
I think so too, but how many times can you do an in-store signing with the same creators.

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Re: American Mythology (6th Jul 17 at 9:17pm UTC)
Looks like copies issue 1 signed with coa by JCV is being released on the same day as issue 2 and orderable here:

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=BEDTIME+STORIES+FOR+IMPRE_1657920

75 copies available. I guess these totally didn't sell out from Diamond the first time.
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Re: American Mythology (6th Jul 17 at 11:02pm UTC)
 
Looks like copies issue 1 signed with coa by JCV is being released on the same day as issue 2 and orderable here:

http://www.midtowncomics.com/store/dp.asp?PRID=BEDTIME+STORIES+FOR+IMPRE_1657920

75 copies available. I guess these totally didn't sell out from Diamond the first time.


It's in Previews...
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/JUL171351

It could be a special cover that he had done or it could be extras from the store signing with the special cover.

As stated above, I'm not going to sit around reordering the same comic just because they put a new cover or different signature on it. What's next... a Jim Shooter signed version through Diamond also? {Rolleyes}

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Re: American Mythology (19th Aug 17 at 2:16am UTC)
Why isn't there an image? {Rolleyes}

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Re: American Mythology (19th Aug 17 at 12:30pm UTC)
 
Why isn't there an image? {Rolleyes}


I don't have an answer obviously, but it is odd that nothing was posted.

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Re: American Mythology (26th Aug 17 at 4:09pm UTC)
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/SEP171140

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SEP171140

(W) Jim Shooter, J. C. Vaughn, Andy Sands(A) Joe James, Joanna Estep, Gene Gonzales(A/CA) Mark Wheatley
Cover artist Mark Wheatley and writer J.C. Vaughn autograph this extremely limited edition of 75 signed Wheatley Toothpick Warrior covers of Bedtime Stories for Impressionable Children #2. Comes bagged and boarded with a certificate of authenticity.

In Shops: Nov 29, 2017

SRP: $24.99
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Re: American Mythology (26th Aug 17 at 6:02pm UTC)
You beat me to the eye-roll smiley.
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Sep 17 at 12:24am UTC)
https://www.stargatecommand.co/feeds/behind-the-scenes-with-stargate-comic-book-creators-issue-1
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Re: American Mythology (22nd Sep 17 at 5:12am UTC)
He doesn't say what that added layer of approval really involves. One thing that really annoyed me about that show were the scenes where everyone starts a sentence and never finishes it. It usually involves a huddle where people are all looking at each other.

Character 1: "We can't go through the gate...."
Character 2: ".... because of a temporal....."
Character 3: ".... distortion! That means we can't rescue the team...
Character 1: "but it also means Earth is safe....
Character 2:: "... Earth is safe from attack, but is this permanent?"

Everything is just a circular run-on sentence because people don't have an attention span.

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Re: American Mythology (27th Sep 17 at 2:12pm UTC)
I thought Sept. 27 was the release date for issue #2.....I can't really tell by the prevewsworld site...

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Re: American Mythology (27th Sep 17 at 9:44pm UTC)
I haven't even thought about it anymore. He lost me on this series.

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Re: American Mythology (27th Sep 17 at 11:56pm UTC)
I had this on pre-order but no update on when it ships. Maybe it got bumped into November with that special signed issue with the COA.
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I had this on pre-order but no update on when it ships. Maybe it got bumped into November with that special signed issue with the COA.


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Mine didn't ship yesterday. Must be bumped. It's probably going to miss the Halloween month window.
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I was going to say that not enough got ordered to publish it. {Tongue Out}

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Re: American Mythology (30th Sep 17 at 4:03pm UTC)
The pre-order option for issue #2 basically disappeared for some online comic shops. Maybe it's cancelled since they didn't meet the Diamond order requirements.

They should just do what Bongo does now and put their already finished issues on cheesy digital for $1.99.

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